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    Ram Muay

    How many nak muay here actually perform the Ram Muay?

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    I've done it but only when I had a Muay Thai rules fight. I think its a little silly in an international/K-1 rules bout.

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    what are the requirements? Can you just make up your own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozma
    what are the requirements? Can you just make up your own?
    I guess you could... someone must make them up. Normally you learn it from you Kru(teacher) They will teach it to you when they want you to do it. It is a show of respect to your teachers and ancestors. It often includes a prayer said over each corner of the ring to "Seal" it against evil spirits.

    The practice can be heavily Buddhist but it doesn't have to be. I am not buddhist and during mine I asked God for protection from injury and the ability to perform at my best. I believe asking for victory to be an act of hubris so I have only ever asked for my own best performance.

    Here is a little more information about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Muay
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    Outside of Thailand, it's pure LARPing. I know it, and I'm capable of performing it, but I can't imagine I ever will except for the TBA instructorship test I plan on taking someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiBoxerShorts
    Outside of Thailand, it's pure LARPing. I know it, and I'm capable of performing it, but I can't imagine I ever will except for the TBA instructorship test I plan on taking someday.
    Gotta disagree.... Respecting the traditions of the sport and the culture from which it originated is not "LARPing".

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    yeh i gotta agree with khun kao, it's way of paying respect not only your trainer but the art your fighting in,

    i read it's also a good way to prepare for your fight (relax/focus that sorta thing)

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    As much as I enjoy playing their sport, the cultural traditions of Thailand are not my traditions, and it would be LARPing to pretend that they are. I almost feel like it would be disrespectful for me to hijack their traditions when they don't really mean anything to me.

    Where I'm from, paying respect to your trainer involves buying him a beer.

    Maybe you can perform the Ram Muay without LARPing. Fair enough. But I can't. When I do it, it's totally LARPing. So I try to avoid it unless my instructors tell me I have to, which is only slightly more often than never.

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    Know your roots! The cultural traditions of Thailand are your traditions if you practice Muay Thai. What you are benefiting from came from that. Its paying respect not only to your trainer, but your trainer's trainer, and so on.

    I don't mean to sound like a preacher, but I just feel it is important to not forget about the work that was put in before one's own personal training.

    I guess its just a cultural difference.

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    One of the beauties of MuayThai training is that it is very "individual". The ceremonies are not requirements. Many people, myself included, feel a deep spiritual connection to their training, and therefore practice these rituals such as the Wai Kru & Ram Muay. But there are just as many people who don't feel any connection at all and choose not to. Either way is fine.

    One of my fighters was from Tonga. He combined the Ram Muay with his tribal Haka.... It was quite a ferocious sight! He'd begin with the traditional Wai Kru and the opening movements of our teams Ram Muay, but then he'd stand and perform his own Haka. It used to scare the living **** out of his opponents!

    As you can see, the ceremonies can be observed as they are, altered, or discarded.

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