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Wrong. 8th dans are required to know Koshiki no kata, btw. It is part of the Kodokan curriculum, and it was not loaned to the Kodokan by Kano. Kano incorporated this kata into the Kodokan curriculum as a means to preserve the techniques from Kito Ryu that he felt were compatible to Judo.
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Plazma, some youtube treats for ya.
The man demonstrating the Kata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4ggqaoLR7A
Longer performances
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3xFGrWXZjs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwLK1dy9GwM
Also, according to wiki
Some striking demonstrations of it from the 1950s can be seen in the film "Classic Judo Kata," by Hal Sharp. If the description of the kata in that film is correct, it would be the only judo kata that involves attacking the cervical spine---certainly no other judo kata includes that technique.Last edited by Teh El Macho; 8/25/2007 8:24pm at .
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I'm not really a kata person, but I've been try to find video of this kata performed in the traditional armor. This is the only one I could find.
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The yt history has lots of people questioning the autenticity of this. Props to them for trying to try it with armor, but notice the differences between that clip and the previous one done in a Judo setting, as a Judo kata examination. Originally Posted by pauli
Not directly, at least not to the more "basal" katas. Seems to me it's more a vehicle for historical preservation, which is a good think considering how much information has been lost in JJ before on/from the time Judo was being formulated. Originally Posted by pauli
Remember that Judo also has a mandatory educational and historical aspect to it, mandatory to higher level practitioners that is. At least that's how it seems given that this Kata is a requirement for pple pursuing an 8th dan.Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.
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Katas are learning/training tools. I find Nage no kata very useful, the rest not so much, and generally the opinions vary. There are people, especially from Europe, that went on to win Worlds without bothering much with kata, and there are World and All Japan champions that consider kata crucial part of Judo. Originally Posted by pauli
As for Koshiki and Itsutsu, Kano added these to the Judo curriculum quite late in his life when his focus was not so much the combat aspect but rather the health/education aspect of Judo. Very few regular Judo practicioners and competitors get to learn these within their prime competitive shiai carriers.
Ask this question on Judoforum.com, there's a couple of old time senseis there that will explain this better than I can.
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Posted On:
8/25/2007 3:39pm
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Koshiki no Kata