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  1. Naszir is offline
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     Style: BJJ, Judo, SAMBO

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    Sorry, I guess I should have googled Syracuse, NY while looking for that info. As a guy with a WC background stop that eyerolling, hehe.
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    ignatzami,
    If I were you I would also join Pekiti Tirsia International and hit some seminars with
    Tuhon Bill McGrath in Fishkill NY. 5 hours away is probably too far for regular classes...
    but road trips for a summer seminar should be doable.
    let's talk about why fat-fu shall we?
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    Da Komrads... Again you are MadPelvisOwn3d!

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     Style: Spetsnaz Shovel-Fu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naszir
    Sorry, I guess I should have googled Syracuse, NY while looking for that info. As a guy with a WC background stop that eyerolling, hehe.
    / rolls eyes at Naszir /
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    Quote Originally Posted by switchblade
    single-double stick directly relates to knife-fighting. Look up Doce Pares, there may be one in your area.
    Yes in theory but more grey in practicality IMO. I've found prolonged training with sticks only makes my knife fighting equate to very large movements when they should be much tighter. I have to conciously think small and tight. Additionally, there is muscle memory and fighting strategy associated with stick fighting that messes me up when I go back to knives. Then again, I could just be retarded. :guitar:
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     Style: Pekiti, ARMA, other stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Elvis
    Yes in theory but more grey in practicality IMO. I've found prolonged training with sticks only makes my knife fighting equate to very large movements when they should be much tighter. I have to conciously think small and tight. Additionally, there is muscle memory and fighting strategy associated with stick fighting that messes me up when I go back to knives. Then again, I could just be retarded. :guitar:
    This depends also on if you work the stick as a blade or as an impact weapon primarily. Guys who are thinking of it as a bolo near %100 of the time should have smaller, tighter movments to begin with.
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     Style: chinese boxing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Elvis
    Yes in theory but more grey in practicality IMO. I've found prolonged training with sticks only makes my knife fighting equate to very large movements when they should be much tighter. I have to conciously think small and tight. Additionally, there is muscle memory and fighting strategy associated with stick fighting that messes me up when I go back to knives. Then again, I could just be retarded. :guitar:
    I agree. I went to a doce pares class back home this week, and after two years of kung fu I found myself infighting and kicking. One guy actually said "Quit doing that, your confusing me!"

    So of course I kept doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfcritical
    This depends also on if you work the stick as a blade or as an impact weapon primarily. Guys who are thinking of it as a bolo near %100 of the time should have smaller, tighter movments to begin with.
    Very true... but I'm sticking with teh mE= ReTaRDed.
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     Style: Judo, BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naszir
    Sorry, I guess I should have googled Syracuse, NY while looking for that info. As a guy with a WC background stop that eyerolling, hehe.
    I'm ashamed of my WC background, but thats neither here nor there.

    As much as I enjoy stick fighting I have always thought that training with a knife from day one would make you a better knife fighter then training a stick for 6-8 months then trying to switch to a knife ever would. But I could be wrong.

    No work from the school in Rochester. Hopefully I'll hear something soon.
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     Style: chinese boxing

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    Of course training with a knife makes you a better knife fighter. Stick fighting, BJJ, WC, all these things make you a better MA as a whole.

    The WC guys I know in San Francisco are bad-ass fighters. I dont know from WC, but I know its hard to find a good KF school in general.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: EBMAS WT/ Latosa Concepts

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    FMA should be all of this all the time. You should not be just learning stick. The stick is only a stand in for some other sharper or more dangerous weapon.

    Each weapon does have its concepts, and so each developes a different range, focus, timing ect...but then it always comes back to the stick for practice. So if your FMA is not translating into other weapons then "stick" you should ask whats going on.



    ....but if you want knife you need to find a good knife instructor :)

    "If anything is gained from this, it should be you both wanting to get better so you can make up for how crappy you are now." KidSpatula about the Sirc vs DTT Gong Sau Event
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