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  1. Jack Rusher is online now
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    I suspect Steve's well aware of many of the shortcomings of the literature, and wants to remedy them with his own research.
    I thought he would, whereas I am not, which ignorance combined with my natural laziness to form my request for a summary.

    Judah: Thanks for info. I wish you a well designed study with a N.
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    A "big N." That's very clever. Ha!

    More than that, though, longitudinal in design, broad in scope, blahblahblah
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackrusher
    I think this is a natural outgrowth of what Lebell mentioned with regards to realizing one's position in the skill hierarchy, which in turns helps one to overcome the fantasy of fighting ability that most men carry. This leads us, I suppose, back to the observation that many practitioners of non-competitive MAs increase rather than decrease the power of that fantasy by pretending to train rather than actually training.


    J.
    I think you and Lebell have hit the nail on the head. I feel like by being smacked around I've jettisoned some fantasies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackrusher
    I think this is a natural outgrowth of what Lebell mentioned with regards to realizing one's position in the skill hierarchy, which in turns helps one to overcome the fantasy of fighting ability that most men carry. This leads us, I suppose, back to the observation that many practitioners of non-competitive MAs increase rather than decrease the power of that fantasy by pretending to train rather than actually training.


    J.

    Exactly

    I have more arrogance in non-competitive MA than MMA

    You can not train in effective MMA with out being tapped out and basically beaten up all the time.


    Top MA fighters change camps and training partners to keep up the preasure of always training with people who can beat them at aspects of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    The prospect of real violence rarely shows up in my real life.

    The last time it did, I felt less anxious than I would have done in the past.

    Not because I felt more confident of winning so much (I've had it beaten into me that you can't assume too much about how good somebody is just by looking at them), but because I was thinking 'well if this asshole really _must_ push this, it's not like I haven't been hit before'.
    Yeah, this I get. I used to be really worried about losing fights - as if it'd make a mockery of my MA training.

    Eventually I realised this was futile, and got used to the idea of losing (in a fair fight - which didn't help when I got into a brawl with a gang).

    But yes, getting hit frequently is a nice corrective to that sort of fear (and the pride that can come with it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackrusher
    many practitioners of non-competitive MAs increase rather than decrease the power of that fantasy by pretending to train rather than actually training.
    Absolutely. It's a delusion that's maintained at a great expense of mental energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackrusher
    I think this is a natural outgrowth of what Lebell mentioned with regards to realizing one's position in the skill hierarchy, which in turns helps one to overcome the fantasy of fighting ability that most men carry. This leads us, I suppose, back to the observation that many practitioners of non-competitive MAs increase rather than decrease the power of that fantasy by pretending to train rather than actually training.


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    exactly my point Jack.
    You just said it better then i could!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonillo
    In 4 years as a member, this is probably one of the top 3 best threads of all time.
    Thanks - I appreciate this.

    Especially in combination with your 'fighting solves everything' t-shirt.
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    I'd like to thank everyone for their contributions to this thread.

    Seriously.

    It was an important topic for me, and it wasn't destroyed with all sorts of stupid PENIS LOL (it might now, but...).

    Bullshido at its best.
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    I especially liked my posts, this thread couldnt have gotten this good without them.
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