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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung
    Would rockclimbing or rowing have the same effects? Or what about just getting into fights in clubs, or in the backyard with mates?

    No they would not, its the combination of physical activity and controlled aggression with out anger that has the effect on me.

    Plus grappling especially is a physical and mental exercise, in which you're thinking all the time. It's a physical, mental and spiritual release that is not substituted by anything else.

    It's the whole combination off all of the above.

    I often jokingly tell people who ask why I do martial arts that sometimes I just need to choke someone.

    but it's really the truth (in a non psycho way)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soju - Joe
    No they would not, its the combination of physical activity and controlled aggression with out anger that has the effect on me.

    Plus grappling especially is a physical and mental exercise, in which you're thinking all the time. It's a physical, mental and spiritual release that is not substituted by anything else.

    It's the whole combination off all of the above.

    I often jokingly tell people who ask why I do martial arts that sometimes I just need to choke someone.

    but it's really the truth (in a non psycho way)
    I know what you mean. This is what I miss in Tai Chi.

    Well, that's not quite true. There is Tai Chi that has this.

    But I can't do it, BECAUSE I'M AN INJURED IDIOT WHO'S FOOLHARDY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung
    Why is it stupid? Isn't it a sign (perhaps an equivocal one) of effort and perseverance?
    Nah, that's the other guy's black eye. One of my own is a sign of lack of skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    Nah, that's the other guy's black eye. One of my own is a sign of lack of skill.
    Heh. Righto.

    So turning up to work looking blemish-free and calm (after tooling your opponents in a tourney) would be something to be proud of.

    Whereas at present, you're just a schmuck.
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    Luckily all my injuries have been internal tears and such

    True story

    When I was working in sales and doing Trad JJ

    I tore my knee crappling

    Dr said I would need to get scoped (I didn't and am fine today)

    Anyways I was limping badly for a while.

    So one blustery Toronto fall day I was limping to work with my sister in law.

    Wearing a shirt and tie, a jean jacket, Sneakers because it hurt to walk in dress shoes and a baseball cap all with a very pronounced limp.

    My sister in law
    "You know you look retarded"

    Me
    "I look silly?"

    Sister in law
    "No you look genuinely retarded, like someone special who's hired to work in the mail room and every one says look at him he's doing good (for a retard). Like Corky or something."

    But I have never showed up with a black eye to work

    so that's something good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung
    Would rockclimbing or rowing have the same effects? Or what about just getting into fights in clubs, or in the backyard with mates?

    The fighting with friends I can't vouch for.

    But I tried finding palliative substitutes for combat sports. The only thing that helped a little bit was high-speed cycling along Chicago trails and streets at night. Basically the combination of high-intensity exercise paired with the risk of hitting cars or pedestrians.

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    In 4 years as a member, this is probably one of the top 3 best threads of all time.
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    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung
    Heh. Righto.

    So turning up to work looking blemish-free and calm (after tooling your opponents in a tourney) would be something to be proud of.

    Whereas at present, you're just a schmuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah Maccabee
    However, despite this limitation, there's an preponderance of evidence that suggests that the longer one trains in a "modern" setting with an emphasis on sparring and competition and a de-emphasis on ethical/philosophical learning, the more antisocial one becomes.
    The first question that comes to mind about this sort of study is whether they were tracking change over time per individual or simply assessing a pool of individuals at a moment in time. If they did the latter, it would be very hard to tell whether they were documenting a correlation between an antisocial predisposition and longer training times or a personality profile that actually resulted from the training itself. I've not read the literature in question; can you give me some idea of which methods were used in the studies?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feryk
    It's not stupid. It's okay to feel good that you are surviving/thriving in an environment most people would fail at. I know that my MA training caused an increase in my self confidence early on. That self confidence translated into other areas of my life. My wife tells me I'm a happier and nicer person when I'm training, so I would definitely call that a virtue of MA training.

    As for vice, I've become less tolerant of other people's bullshit drama, especially when they attempt to enroll me in it. I've got less time for idiocy. My life is simpler, but I've been told that I've become more arrogant. I'm not sure if this is a vice, but I think it's an outgrowth of greater self confidence.

    Right now, I'm trying to determine whether or not a little arrogance is bad.
    I have experienced the same, and feel the same. However, I have also noticed that BJJ has helped with my anger issues. I'm calmer when I've been choked/tapped out recently. As for the arrogance, I've found I'm more arrogant but am also mosre willing to accept that others are better. I'm much less tolerant of people telling me I'm less then them. Dunno, I think it's a good thing.

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