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  1. NoMan is offline

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    This warrants an entirely seperate thread , but on the race vs. social issues:

    Race vs. poverty:

    Race, in and of itself, doesn't contribute to violence. Nor does poverty. (The black crime statistic is completely wrong too.) Here's the full statistics, but is per capita, not total crime population, (and these figures are from 1994, best I can do off-hand). If poverty were the reason, why didn't America see huge crime spikes when Asian immigrants came here and lived in squalor? The answer is that the Asian families didn't bring with them high levels of drug and alcohol addiction, along with stronger family ties and bonding. One of the best researchers on it that I've found is John Diiulio Jr., who I like more because he was willing to critique his earlier work and revise it in light of new research. (He used a 1991 survey of state prisoners by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. It put people arrested twice for drug offenses in the same category as serial bank robbers, rapists, and murderers. He since revised his opinion to say that imprisoning drug offenders with no other convictions for long periods of time is wrong.)

    For a good public article of his work:

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...49/ai_19071773

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    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._16354768/pg_1
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    Met one of the dudes who's on this show today, cool cat, know nothing about his career. Though, he was able to discuss a variety of rulesets intelligently. He didnt strike me as a know nothing brawler.

    I should see him in action tomorrow.
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    The racism is strong with this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasma
    Exactly what I was thinking. This is on the same level of backyard white trash "MMA" fights.
    P1@sMa has teh correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabwyo
    People influence themselves.... period. Social, economic & dogmatic situations aren't a excuse for poor moral judgement.

    I mentioned myself because I am tired of hearing that poor, abused kids from single parent households are some how designed to be criminals, maladjusted or otherwise incapable of acting like a civilized human. I only called you on your half assed, bleeding **** sociological interperetation because it's old, tired and completely false. Go choke yourself.
    He's not saying what you think he's saying. He's saying that all these things can influence a person to do these things. I have a relative who's a Vice President of Ford and he grew up stomp down poor. But he does agree that their environment influences poor people to do these things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracky McSlugHoot
    The racism is strong with this thread.
    Shut up Canadian. Go eat your precious chips, cheese curds and gravy.
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    1. BET sucks.

    2. This thread is getting pretty ridiculous in terms of the whole race issue. OK, lets pretend for a second that financial conditions had no affect on those that become criminals. So what? What, is this your way of putting your self above people tabwyo? I'm not saying your a racist, but you seem to be full of ****.

    3. BET still sucks.
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    I am saying that anybody who uses there social situation, economic status or that fact that they are just on their cycle as an excus to commit crime is bullshit. Period. I used myself as an example because I grew up with 90% of the conditions that modern day "forward thinking" pansy assy head shrinkers say causes a person to delve uncontrolably into a life of crime. I didn't bring up race you asshat. I responded to a post which implied that if you were poor you'd commit crime. **** off and have a shitty day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
    He's not saying what you think he's saying. He's saying that all these things can influence a person to do these things. I have a relative who's a Vice President of Ford and he grew up stomp down poor. But he does agree that their environment influences poor people to do these things.
    I can agree with that.

    A factor maybe. An excuse... hell no!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabwyo
    I can agree with that.

    A factor maybe. An excuse... hell no!
    Wait, if you agree with that why in the **** are you making everybody out here saying the exact same fucking thing like a bunch of fuckin hippies. No one said it was an excuse you over trooling retard. Maybe you should lay off the booze. But I'm guessing you just got elbowed to hard. Lost a good amount of brain cells huh?
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