Right now I am training at Smithtown Judo and KTFO. I would like to compete in http://www.icompete.org/event/view/483.
I dunno about the enshin thing though. I'll have to think.
The places I am training are all totally different from each other in focus. I don't think I would ever have to worry about cross competition. And really for the most part, I just keep my mouth shut about what I do outside class.
I was a little outspoken about this before, but I find the 'Brazilian' attitude (and by extension the American one) to this very mean (as in scrooge like), and at least for your casual/hobbyist/semi-serious students completely irrational. You never know, they might learn a new trick and bring it back to the club, isolating your student population can only be a bad thing IMO.
Originally Posted by sdave
Serious competitors are another matter, but you can still be sensible about it without resorting to a blanket ban. Anyone good enough to represent you in competition will have been training with you a long time, so you should have a good enough relationship with them to discuss this. If they choose to represent another school after being with you so long, then you've got more problems than a contract enforcing this bullshit will solve.
Now I would discuss it with the coaches of both clubs if I were in a situation like this, but out of respect and because I'm honest, not because I felt obligated or disloyal.
Exactly. This is THE reason given by one coach that he didn't want his students training elsewhere. He didn't want his "secrets" getting out.
Originally Posted by Lu Tze
IF the "new tricks" are flowing in, sure... If, however, information is only going out, then the paranoid coach will likely have a very different opinion.
Originally Posted by Lu Tze
Originally Posted by jnp
If that coach is someone like fucking Eddie Bravo I could understand (except Eddie isn't paraniod is he? He posts his secrets on the internet). I'd say there are very very few BJJ coaches (or any coaches) who innovate to the extent they need to "protect their secrets". Like I said, it's irrational, paranoid and likely born of an obsession with getting more trophies than other local clubs. So, instead of building a relationship with those other clubs, having a little friendly competition, and promoting the sport for the good of them all... they antagonize the **** out of each other with their provincial, small minded bollocks, and they drag their students along for the ride. Great stuff.
Creonte? LOL, fucking dramawhores.
Last edited by Lu Tze; 8/18/2007 2:22pm at .
Lu, it comes down to competition and reputation, IMO. This has been done to death already before, but suffice it to say that training at multiple locations for the same art is like registering at two different universities for the same degree.
It's nothing like that at all.
Where you train? Its your money. Train where you want.
All this nonsense about loyalty is designed to preserve market share.
Any of the people in my program can train wherever they want. All I ask is if they do and learn something useful, bring it back to the rest of us.
That said, you do need to think about what's going on at the different gyms. In the beginning, it will be easier if they are doing completely different stuff from each other. Say one striking only and one grappling only. At some point, it will be up to you to figure out how to combine the different skills you learn.
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