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    Well, the Katsugo Ryu AikiJuJitsu is most liekly from Grandmaster Jospeh Torres. He is a known fraud in NY and is rumored to be very fond of young people. This is the only link I could find. Oh and I was one of his students until his overt friendliness and BS freaked me out.
    The link is not much but it gives you a starting point where to make contact or email for info.

    http://www.tkdcenter.com/Aiki-Jujitsu.htm

    (edit* I wrote rumored because I was told it could be considered libel without cooberating evidence but upon further discussion, since I was the victum he would have to disprove my claims)

    (Edit* Overt friendliness and BS freaked me out = Grabbed my junk and told me a fucked up story about chi and mastubration)
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    I haven't read much but I two things immediately hit the BS meter.

    1) Working with the secret service. This is not something that just happens. You have to be employed by the government (military, NSA, Treasury, etc) and even then its a lenghty process. A co-worker of mine just got selected to work for SS and the process took months. He leaves at the start of the fiscal year and I will definitely ask him to look into this guy.

    2) He holds a 5th Dan in CQB (which is an old term that has been around the military for quite some time) TACTICS. If he created it why does he have a 5th Dan?
    Word. I have a buddy in the Diplomatic service. No easy task to get in. Notice this guy claims to have worked "with" the SS, not worked "for" the SS. Big BS indicator. You don't just work with the SS....especially on a presidential detail as he claims...LOL Also, it is my understanding (I could be wrong) that it is the Diplomtic service that works with foreign dignitaries, not the secret service...at least not typically.

    Regarding those photo galleries from the HOF, I found those too, but Hoenig is not in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve
    Regarding those photo galleries from the HOF, I found those too, but Hoenig is not in there.
    I noticed that as well. I was trying to show the "ties of BS that binds"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve
    Word. I have a buddy in the Diplomatic service. No easy task to get in. Notice this guy claims to have worked "with" the SS, not worked "for" the SS. Big BS indicator. You don't just work with the SS....especially on a presidential detail as he claims...LOL Also, it is my understanding (I could be wrong) that it is the Diplomtic service that works with foreign dignitaries, not the secret service...at least not typically.

    Regarding those photo galleries from the HOF, I found those too, but Hoenig is not in there.
    The SS comes into play whenever the Pres or staff gets into play. Still "bodyguard" and "tactical driver" for Foreign diplomats under the SS is a crock of ****.
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    A search with " ask.com" on Master Julian Hoenig Martial arts, brings up some articles he has posted on different forums but does not indicate that he teaches or participates in anything meaningful. Some of the articles read like they were lifted from some book on the subject he happens to be espousing at the time. It also mentions "Bushidokan Dojos" a few times but he seems to have seperated from them. Searching for Bushidokan listings just brings up links for dojos all over the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asia the Invincible
    The SS comes into play whenever the Pres or staff gets into play. Still "bodyguard" and "tactical driver" for Foreign diplomats under the SS is a crock of ****.
    Right on the money, Asia.

    I had a brief stint with the DoS as a contractor for about 5 years, and never saw the SS details unless the Prez or Vice Prez or a member of the Cabimet was around. The Diplomatic Service hands the details whenever 'guests" are about.

    This smells alot!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom.f
    A search with " ask.com" on Master Julian Hoenig Martial arts, brings up some articles he has posted on different forums but does not indicate that he teaches or participates in anything meaningful. Some of the articles read like they were lifted from some book on the subject he happens to be espousing at the time. It also mentions "Bushidokan Dojos" a few times but he seems to have seperated from them. Searching for Bushidokan listings just brings up links for dojos all over the world.
    According to that link I posted he no longer owns said gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    If you notice he is fit in "sandman" pic.

    Yet, the next recent pics show an obvious spare tire.
    Isn't this known as "Sifu Milt Syndrome"?

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    This guy does give a lot of his MA lineage and what not, particularly re Goju.

    -fu

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goju_ryu/message/5977

    As far as who Ived trained with......my 1st 2nd and 3rd dan in
    okinawan goju was certified by master glen grabow, a student of both
    Toguchi, and Shinjo, since the early 60's, when he trained with them
    in Okinawa....my 1st and 2nd dan in USA/Urban goju came from
    Grandmaster Ted Smith, and Master Alex Kirk, both students of
    Urban.....my 4th dan with renshi title and my 5th dan in Okinawan
    goju ryu was certified by Master Kirk, and subsequently recognized by
    the Soke Grandmaster Jospeh Torres, founder of the Katsugo Ryu
    Aikijujitsu organization, under which I also train....Grandmaster
    Torres recently inducted me into the action martial arts magazine
    black belt hall of fame in January of 2004......there is so much more
    to tell about okinawan goju.....Ill be more than happy to try to
    answer any of your questions.....hope this helps for now. :-)
    ~Jules

    -and later in same thread-

    Master Kirk, btw, is also ranked in Okinawan Goju Ryu, as is
    Master Smith
    Where he seems terribly inconsistant is in regards to his Aikijitsu/Aikido qualifications.
    You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
    FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

    just die already.
    Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asia the Invincible
    2) He holds a 5th Dan in CQB (which is an old term that has been around the military for quite some time) TACTICS. If he created it why does he have a 5th Dan?
    He might just be smart enough to know that awarding himself a 5th Dan in his self-created martial art is less suspicious then awarding himself a 10th Dan.

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