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  1. Sam Browning is offline

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    Thank you Steven for phrasing the question so well, to repeat.

    "I have several questions like:
    How can a Hawaii SPCC agent legally work in NY if the NY SPCC hes was working for was not yet incorporated and thus, you could not have been sworn in NY? How could a New Yorker get sworn in for a Hawaii SPCC if they presumably would never work in Hawaii? How would a Hawaii SPCC agent get sworn in NY as a peace officer? Did kirk ever complete the incorporation? There are many questions in regard to your SPCC activities.

    I find it a bit hard to swallow that you have no evidence at all of your SPCC agent status or Peace Officer status in NY or Hawaii, etc. Why would Kirk have all the paperwork...especially if he was not living in NY. What if you needed it as the one operating in NY? "
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    This thread is just chock-full of awesome. I came for the Bullshido, and stayed for the confrontations, investigations, cyberstalking, harassment, and police activity.

    Excellent work, people. Keep it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Browning
    Thank you Steven for phrasing the question so well, to repeat.

    "I have several questions like:
    How can a Hawaii SPCC agent legally work in NY if the NY SPCC hes was working for was not yet incorporated and thus, you could not have been sworn in NY? How could a New Yorker get sworn in for a Hawaii SPCC if they presumably would never work in Hawaii? How would a Hawaii SPCC agent get sworn in NY as a peace officer? Did kirk ever complete the incorporation? There are many questions in regard to your SPCC activities.

    I find it a bit hard to swallow that you have no evidence at all of your SPCC agent status or Peace Officer status in NY or Hawaii, etc. Why would Kirk have all the paperwork...especially if he was not living in NY. What if you needed it as the one operating in NY? "
    Unless this claim is just absolute bullshido, one possible excuse would be that Kirk "fixed" it so that Jules could carry a gun. THAT sort of nonsense is not uncommon. That would be the only reason that I can think of.
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    I talked to Steve Forrester, Esq, Assistant Executive Director of the New York Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children which is in Manhatten. He said that Alexander Kirk and Julian Hoenig had never worked for his organization.

    Then I called the Rev William Kalaidjian of the Bronx SPCC, and he told me that he had been with the Bronx SPCC since 1959 and hadn't heard of these two individuals either.

    Rev Kalaidjain did suggest that Kirk and Hoenig may have worked for the Brooklyn SPCC which was closed down several years ago after it was discovered that they weren't properly screening their members, and several had their own problems with child abuse. When I asked him about the Brooklyn SPCC he referred to it as "the gun club".

    Okay Jules, this doesn't explain why you would have been operating in the Bronx if you were with the Brooklyn SPCC, but was this the SPCC that Kirk was working with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Browning
    I talked to Steve Forrester, Esq, Assistant Executive Director of the New York Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children which is in Manhatten. He said that Alexander Kirk and Julian Hoenig had never worked for his organization.
    Thanks Sam. I was hoping a lawyer to lawyer talk might add something. He told Steve and I the same thing. We have the emails on the thread.

    Then I called the Rev William Kalaidjian of the Bronx SPCC, and he told me that he had been with the Bronx SPCC since 1959 and hadn't heard of these two individuals either.

    Rev Kalaidjain did suggest that Kirk and Hoenig may have worked for the Brooklyn SPCC which was closed down several years ago after it was discovered that they weren't properly screening their members, and several had their own problems with child abuse. When I asked him about the Brooklyn SPCC he referred to it as "the gun club".
    This is the one we are having problems getting any info form.

    Was your SPCC one of the organizations investigated?
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    Where is Master Jules? Seems like he should have been on here by now defending against these points. His myspace shows he logged in today.
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    He dosen't live on Bullshido, I'm sure he has more important stuff to do than follow up on this.

    He does seem to keep coming back though and giving us stuff, so if he comes back in a week or 2 who cares?
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    Add to the thread or leave it alone. He is answering questions and trying to provide proof.
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    Just a new bit of info for you on the Secret Service thing.....I have the dates, and the gentleman who contracted me to work with them is in the process of preparing a letter. He will try to provide it on the letterhead of the CAR. If hes not able to do that, since he basically needs the presidents or Prime ministers permission, I hope whatever letterhead he uses will be sufficient. The dates are as follows.
    June 1st-3rd, 2006, as well as September 18th-20th of 2006. Ill keep you apprised of any new info. And youre right....I dont "live" here (no offense), so when I get back, Ill get back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knifehand1
    Just a new bit of info for you on the Secret Service thing.....I have the dates, and the gentleman who contracted me to work with them is in the process of preparing a letter. He will try to provide it on the letterhead of the CAR. If hes not able to do that, since he basically needs the presidents or Prime ministers permission, I hope whatever letterhead he uses will be sufficient. The dates are as follows.
    June 1st-3rd, 2006, as well as September 18th-20th of 2006. Ill keep you apprised of any new info. And youre right....I dont "live" here (no offense), so when I get back, Ill get back.
    Thank you.


    Are there going to be names of individuals on this document?
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