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  1. Khun Kao is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkartigue
    One of the guys in the gym uses a sasae tsuri komi ashi from the head clinch as a take down. It has been quite effective for him. Look on judoinfo.com for some examples of sasae
    Basically he locks up the head in the clinch then throws a couple of knees. He then steps out to the side rotates the head and blocks the leg at the ankle with his other foot using the sole of his foot against the ankle. Really an easy move and quite effective.
    Also illegal. However, if you plant the foot just outside their foot as you twist them over it, thats a legal throw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw
    Just out of curiosity, why does Muay Thai have such stringent rules for throws?
    Exactly as WhiteShark stated, to encourage knee strikes (and elbows)
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    sasae is to the outside of the ankle not an inside sweep like a kouchi or an ouchi
    Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
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    Still illegal. The point being that its a "sweep". For it to be ring legal in MuayThai, the foot must be planted. Mind you, depending on your referee, you may likely get away with it, but it is technically illegal.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    On the other hand in some organization's "International" or "Oriental" rules will include "boot to boot" sweeps. These ruleset usually don't allow elbows and are similar to K-1. Under that ruleset I've used almost every judo throw I know that makes contact below the knee and gotten away with it.
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