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  1. seriousmantid is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenJonas
    Butt scoot. It is very disconcerting to chase someone around the mat like a fiddler crab only to tie them up in your De La Riva or Spider guard and sweep them with....wait.......what forum is this?

    Seriously though, how short are you? Are we talking dwarf/little person, etc....or just a some one say 4'10 - 5'4"? Regardless of the MA or technique you use your stuck with what you have, i.e., your particular physical characteristics, and you need to learn to make it work for you. If the strict use of a particular technique does not work you need to either adapt it to work with your body type or the particular situation OR abandon it all together as an ineffective technique FOR YOU and find one that works.

    MA is not "one size fits all", ask your instructor to help you out.

    Im not saying that my style doesn't approach this subject or even that it doesn't work, Im just allways looking for quicker and faster methods. The art I take does close distance well but since I have no experience in other styles (much) I was interested in hearing other approaches to the same difficulty. I am allways interested in doing things quicker and just think that if you can close distance in one step instead of two or three steps then your reaction can be quicker and use less energy hopefully. Sure there are a lot of things to take into consideration on which technique to use, I am just looking for different approaches and so far I am finding the answers really informative thank you alll.
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    A couple of simple things that might work.

    1. Tuck your chin, taking a shot off the forehead isn't as bad as taking one to the nose.
    2. Head movement, it doesn't have to be a lot, but move your head side to side as well as up and down, while keeping you chin tucked. A moving target is harder to hit cleanly.
    3. Throw a lead punch, it dosn't have to land, and then instead of pulling the hand back, follow it in, move your body to it. I hope his makes sense but use the punch to create the space to move into. Oh yeah, keep your chin tucked.
    4. Get used to getting hit. Sugar Ray said all boxers get hit, good boxers get hit less often.

    Hope these might be usefull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1K3
    A couple of simple things that might work.

    1. Tuck your chin, taking a shot off the forehead isn't as bad as taking one to the nose.
    2. Head movement, it doesn't have to be a lot, but move your head side to side as well as up and down, while keeping you chin tucked. A moving target is harder to hit cleanly.
    3. Throw a lead punch, it dosn't have to land, and then instead of pulling the hand back, follow it in, move your body to it. I hope his makes sense but use the punch to create the space to move into. Oh yeah, keep your chin tucked.
    4. Get used to getting hit. Sugar Ray said all boxers get hit, good boxers get hit less often.

    Hope these might be usefull.
    great advice. Seriousmantid, this here is the TRUTH.
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  4. seriousmantid is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1K3
    A couple of simple things that might work.

    1. Tuck your chin, taking a shot off the forehead isn't as bad as taking one to the nose.
    2. Head movement, it doesn't have to be a lot, but move your head side to side as well as up and down, while keeping you chin tucked. A moving target is harder to hit cleanly.
    3. Throw a lead punch, it dosn't have to land, and then instead of pulling the hand back, follow it in, move your body to it. I hope his makes sense but use the punch to create the space to move into. Oh yeah, keep your chin tucked.
    4. Get used to getting hit. Sugar Ray said all boxers get hit, good boxers get hit less often.

    Hope these might be usefull.
    M1K3 thank you for that insight that sounds really like it might be effective. I really appreciate your answer.
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    also, roundkicks to the inner thigh are very effective, perhaps more so because of your small legs and feet. I'm too gangly to land those, they hurt like crazy...if you're really short, you can throw them from your opponents punching range...cover up and kick...works well...just cover up well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmantid
    Is there any way with out eating a couple to the grill because I am not to good at taking a punch, the slightest pressure usually throws me for a loop.
    You know what?

    I'm about 5 posts away from asking you to be banned from the CMA forum.

    Why?

    Everything is contained in your school and it is highly effective. Yet, here you are showing a deficiency in you training. Now, all styles have holes I get that. Most people asking for help don't tell us that their style is super dooper magic finger grappletastic superior.
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    Took TEM's suggestion moved here not CMA specific.
    Last edited by It is Fake; 8/17/2007 12:18pm at .
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    Plus I'm sure Ashley and WhiteShark are not going to be happy to see a striking discussion here. I may be wrong, but unless there is something really, really specific to CMA in this thread, this should be in Strikeistan.

    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmantid
    M1K3 thank you for that insight that sounds really like it might be effective. I really appreciate your answer.
    What? The other advise you got might not be effective? LOL @ "Is there any way with out eating a couple to the grill?"
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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    I can't believe you guys are feeding him all of this boxing crap! FLYING SIDEKICK is the obvious solution here. Two good steps and launch. You can close 8-10 feet of distance no problem! And flying kicks are obviously effective since Osiris used one against JFS.

    No, seriously, get used to getting hit in the face sometimes. If you're ever in a fight it's mostly likely gonna happen. So get used to it in training. Then take the advice of the other people in the thread about covering up, slipping, and moving in on an angle.

    Also, ASK YOUR FUCKING TEACHER.
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    We really do need a good sticky on this question, it seems like it gets asked at least once a month or so. The easiest answer is to find a good boxing gym and start training there; if you had some fundamental boxing skills you wouldn't have to ask how to get in on a guy with a reach advantage.
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