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  1. klefmung is offline

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    8/12/2007 1:56pm


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    double kicks

    Well, I have some questions about double kicks.
    -Can the second one include enough body movement to generate power? If so, how?
    -Can they be fast enough without too much power sacrifice?
    -Are there any known MMA fighters or Kickboxers who use them?
    -Do any of you use them?
  2. maurice is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/12/2007 2:35pm


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    Clarification: Are you asking about kicking twice with the same leg without putting your foot down? Rick Rufus used to throw a low kick / axe kick combo in K-1, but the low kick was just a zero-power fake to open up their head.
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    8/12/2007 2:45pm


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    yea, same foot twice, without putting your leg down.
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    I was hit by a combo that involved a round kick to the shin followed by a high round kick to the head (same leg, without putting the foot down). I thought it was effective and could have enough power behind it.

    The power is generated by the hips on kick combos like that. You have to be flexible for stuff like that. Unfortuntately I don't have the flexibility myself. I believe you can learn kick combos from the TKD types. Better to talk to people and have them show you over enrolling in the resident TKD chain, it will save you time.
  5. klefmung is offline

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    8/12/2007 3:47pm


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    I hang around a legit TKD school from time to time and spar. They can do it, but obviously, they aren't trying to knock you out. I am wondering, if you wanted to KO someone with it, could you?
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    8/12/2007 3:55pm


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    If I wasn't wearing headgear the time I got kicked I would have been out or pretty dizzy.
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    I was under the impression that headgear just made it hurt less and didn't help the actual KO force. But I could be wrong.
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    Posted On:
    8/12/2007 10:22pm


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    Head Gear protects mainly from cuts and only a bit from the impact. It could still mean the difference between a KO and a knock down though.

    As for double kicks, there used to be a Koykushin guy in my gym, he could do head kicks from elbow range. He'd mid-kick you to throw you off, then he'd head-kick you.
    That was my first experience with seeing stars.
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    8/12/2007 11:42pm


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    Yes double kicks can be useful. The first kick as stated b4 is/can be used mainly as a fake , you don't put all your power into it , then follow up with the real strike.

    one of my personal favorites is a roundhouse to the head then a side kick to the ribs.
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    8/13/2007 12:13am


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    I Agree.

    I'll also only ever use a "double kick" as the OP called it if the first kick is an opener. I tend to see people go Low-then-high more often, but High-then-Low, or mid-to low is good for taking out your opponent's back leg - if you can get the person to try and check the first kick, and then rapidly drop the second one under it and hit the posting leg.

    Obviously, the first kick isn't really intended to connect at all, but rather to make them think that it will. if it fails (i.e. if I misjudge the range, or my timing is off and they close the gap), I'll follow up immediately with a punch from my alternate hand instead - e.g. If they check my roundkick at their ribs, I'll throw a left hook instead of a low kick.
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