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  1. Epicurus is offline

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    8/12/2007 12:38am


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    Dumbell press - do I need a bench?

    So I have some dumbells and a barbell which I currently use mainly for bicep curls. I am wondering if I can use them to do say a dumbell press or similar exercises wihtout a weight becnh, i.e. lying on the floor? I am assuming right now that having a limited range of motionn due to lying on the floor would make the exercise not worth it, but I have seen it listed as an exercise in a fitness book which has caused me to question my assumption.

    I have also heard that those large pilates/yogae balls can be used as a "weight becnh" for lighter weights.

    Thoughts?
    "[Fighting for Points] is doubtless very pretty, and invariably draws applause, but preferences should always be given to blows that do some business, to good straight hits that do something toward finishing the fight.
    A man who has carefully trained for brilliant tapping play, will find himself considerably out of it in case he is called upon to do any real work."
    -A.J. Newton, Boxing.
  2. Tinkebell is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/12/2007 1:09am

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    The Westside Barbell mob do them as an assistance exercise. but I wouldn't rely on them.
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    Posted On:
    8/12/2007 1:12am

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    Yes, it will limit your range of motion too much if you do it on the floor. I wouldn't recommend.

    Yes, you can do it on a swiss ball, just don't bounce your elbows on it.
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    Posted On:
    8/12/2007 1:16am


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    I'd also recommend against doing anything terribly heavy on a swiss ball.

    Benches are cheap though, and much better suited for what you need.
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    Posted On:
    8/12/2007 9:17am


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    You can get swiss/stability balls that are rated up to a ridiculous amount of weight and they are still a lot cheaper than a decent bench. I saw one rated to 1500lbs but can't find it online. It was in a catalogue of Gaiam products. It's another option.
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    Posted On:
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    If you're on the floor, it becomes a floor press instead of a bench press. The floor press is still an effective move, you can use for blasting through plateaus on bench and such. However, use the barbell for floor presses, not the DBs.
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  7. Hands is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/12/2007 3:53pm


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    You loose range of motion when you're on the floor. Cheap benches are available for about fifty bucks for that kind of thing (the ball things are good too). I think dumbell presses are great. I never did them until I had my shoulder worked on and found out how important stabilizers are. Yeah, you can't bench as much but working the stabilizers reduces risk of injury and has other benefits.

    I read some bodybuilding sites that claimed working the stabilizers actually produces more muscle growth than otherwise. I've seen great results myself but I'm not 100% sure it was because I switched to almost all freeweights.
  8. Judah Maccabee is offline
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    Posted On:
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    If you're going to invest in swiss balls, look into getting a physio-roll:



    It can only roll back and forth, and does not roll laterally - it makes them a lot more safe to use for exercise purposes. I bought one for the developmentally disabled residents at my job and they work very well.
  9. Epicurus is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/12/2007 9:07pm


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    Thank you for the replies everyone - the reason I am reluctant to get a bench is that I really do not have space for one right now in my apartment (seriously) though I could probably find room for a swiss ball.
    "[Fighting for Points] is doubtless very pretty, and invariably draws applause, but preferences should always be given to blows that do some business, to good straight hits that do something toward finishing the fight.
    A man who has carefully trained for brilliant tapping play, will find himself considerably out of it in case he is called upon to do any real work."
    -A.J. Newton, Boxing.
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    Posted On:
    8/12/2007 9:28pm

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    Epicurus, you could still get great results doing floor presses and overhead presses with your barbell.
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    You're a scrapper, I like that."-Ronin69
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