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    Any Info on James Lee's Iron Palm Conditioning?

    Does anyone have any info on James Lee's Iron Palm Conditioning?

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    So, I take it that's a "No"?

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    People may have experience but not in the specific style you asked.

    Try asking what you are looking for in the specific type of IP.

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    Are you looking for the book- I saw a copy of it once in SF, at a used book store. There isn't much to recommend it. After James Lee started training with Bruce Lee, he was very disgusted with the training he had taken in Shao Lin. I don't see why you'd want to learn about Iron Palm from a guy that discarded it. I suppose, if you were a collector, it might be something to have, but it's not like it's worth much, really, unless Bruce Lee autographed it or something, and even then, it's not like a Picasso signature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by new2bjj
    Are you looking for the book- I saw a copy of it once in SF, at a used book store. There isn't much to recommend it. After James Lee started training with Bruce Lee, he was very disgusted with the training he had taken in Shao Lin. I don't see why you'd want to learn about Iron Palm from a guy that discarded it.
    According to what I've read, he taught Bruce his Iron Palm conditioning methods. If what Bruce was teaching was so superior, why would Bruce seek out James Lee's Iron Palm training?

    I'm just curious what, if anything, is different about J.Y. Lee's conditioning as compared to what I'm doing now.

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    It's pretty much hit a bag full of sand/iron fillings 100 times every day, and rub Dit Da Jow or Da Dit Jow or whatever, on the hands. Eventually, your hands will be tougher, without being rougher. Read the introduction to Wing Chun Kung Fu, where James Lee says that he felt his Siu Lum training and forms were a waste of time.James Randi, the exposer of frauds has a running contest, where he will pay $ 50,000 to anyone who can break a real brick, not that baked **** people use. Even Mas Oyama, who broke rocks, said don't use the shiny bricks "They're hard as iron!"

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    Okay, that's cool. I'm using a good jao recipe, & we strike into a bucket of steel shot & strike a speedbag of steel shot.

    Sounds like it's around the same line. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude
    Okay, that's cool. I'm using a good jao recipe, & we strike into a bucket of steel shot & strike a speedbag of steel shot.

    Sounds like it's around the same line. Thanks.
    Just curious, but why? Iron palm now = arthritis later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1K3
    Just curious, but why? Iron palm now = arthritis later.
    you have some evidence of this? we have had lengthy discussions of IP training here, and we have never found any evidence that there is a link to IP training and arthritis later in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist
    you have some evidence of this? we have had lengthy discussions of IP training here, and we have never found any evidence that there is a link to IP training and arthritis later in life.

    please list your sources for this.
    I read, but I don't remember the source so you are right, that Mas O'yama developed arthritis due to his hand conditioning program. I know this is circumstanstial evidence as best but it still dosn't invalidate the initial question, and this is to anyone who wants to answer; why do you want to do this?

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