Kung Fu Movies did they skew/hurt Kung Fu in general

**Zendetta** · Posted On: 8/09/2007 10:19pm

Did Kung Fu movies hurt Martial arts?

Lets ask Master Jackson:

Originally Posted by Master Jackson

I watch Hong Kong films, Asian films a lot. So I keep waiting on this guy to show up that is like Jet Li, the guy that is so fast that the other guy is about to throw a punch and he's just...Bow! Where's the Bruce Lee dude? Where's this cat that can actually do all this stuff that we've been seeing in all these martial arts movies? They're moving towards that I think. Somebody's just going to show up one day, like this legendary dude from the mountains somewhere that's so fast that everyone's just going to be like, "Damn! OK, alright." Forget a weight class; he's got it covered.

The answer would appear to be "Yes".

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 8/09/2007 10:21pm

Yes, I agree it had an effect. I feel it is a scapegoat. Yeah they make the problems worse but, it was pretty bad before hand.

**new2bjj** · Posted On: 8/09/2007 10:31pm

No, I think Kung Fu movies can take a lot of the blame. Before the HK movies, a Karate guy was impressive for fighting ONE big guy, or maybe 2 regular guys. Then, Kung Fu movies come in, and suddenly, these guys are fighting a room full of guys. I was at West Wind, when I was 15, and I had mentioned to one of the "instructors" that Danny Inasantos enjoyed his teachers movies, "except when he fought all those guys". The Instructor says, "Oh no, he could really take on all those guys!". His name was Mr DeSerio. What a putz. Of course, I trained there, so I, too, was a putz.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 8/09/2007 10:55pm

Originally Posted by new2bjj

No, I think Kung Fu movies can take a lot of the blame. Before the HK movies, a Karate guy was impressive for fighting ONE big guy, or maybe 2 regular guys. Then, Kung Fu movies come in, and suddenly, these guys are fighting a room full of guys. I was at West Wind, when I was 15, and I had mentioned to one of the "instructors" that Danny Inasantos enjoyed his teachers movies, "except when he fought all those guys". The Instructor says, "Oh no, he could really take on all those guys!". His name was Mr DeSerio. What a putz. Of course, I trained there, so I, too, was a putz.

You need to watch When Tae Kwon Do Strikes. ANy Sonny Chibna Flick. I should say Martial Arts movies in general instead of kung fu. Hell, the Samurai movies had guys defeating hundreds of fighters alone. No I'm not just talking about Seven Samurai either.

Like I said I think it exacerbated the problem that already existed.
I blame teachers more as I get older.
See with all the cool movies I saw growing up someone always set me right.
Cars can't fly.
Lightsabers don't exist.
Godzilla doesn't attack Japan on a regular basis.

No one was around to debunk all the crap in the MA movies. Hell, teachers I encountered named specific BS movies to watch.

**Scott Larson** · Posted On: 8/09/2007 11:23pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

Godzilla doesn't attack Japan on a regular basis.

He attacks Japan, just not on a regular basis. :P

Also, am I the only one that is annoyed when people call Kung fu movies "Karate flicks" ?

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 8/09/2007 11:28pm

Naw not anymore.

I did "karate" for so man years I don't care. Where I lay most the blame is irrelevant.

I do blame them for skewed sense of Morality and Honor people get from these supposed movies.

I can seriously say I've watched over a thousand Martial Art movies. There are a select few that teach you to respect elders. That is a misconception.

**Frank White** · Posted On: 8/09/2007 11:48pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

The Parent Trap
Ghost Dad
Are we there yet.
Daddy Day Care
Dr. Do Little
Lion King

Name a kung fu movie.

My father is hero
New legend of shao lin
Drunken master
the series Kung Fu
any shao lin movie

in many chinese movies the old dude is bad ass, and in many american movies (and tv shows, especially lately) the old dude or father is portrayed as a bumbling idiot. The wife and children constantly disrespect him. Compare Al Bundy to Ward Cleaver. I assume you're a dad, surely you notice this trend.

I'll give you Lion King though.

**Permalost** · Posted On: 8/10/2007 12:41am

Wow, Ghost Dad and When Tae Kwon Do Strikes mentioned in just two pages.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 8/10/2007 12:54am

Originally Posted by switchblade

My father is hero
New legend of shao lin
Drunken master
the series Kung Fu
any shao lin movie

So, you really need to set down what you are trying to express.
Okay obviously you only watch one genre.
You need to remove Drunken Master.
Kung fu TV series (not a movie) is American so you just owned yourself.

New legend of Shaolin? Okay you are trolling now. You got me.

in many chinese movies the old dude is bad ass, and in many american movies (and tv shows, especially lately) the old dude or father is portrayed as a bumbling idiot. The wife and children constantly disrespect him. Compare Al Bundy to Ward Cleaver. I assume you're a dad, surely you notice this trend. An Oldman being a badass, which many American movies have, wasn't what you said.

Al Bundy vs Cliff Huxtable would be better since they are the same time period. Yes, I watched both. So, you had the bumbling idiot and the respectable father. So no, I didn't see a trend. I saw different versions of fathers.

name one american movie that teaches you to respect your elders (or they will place several hot teacups on you till you can't move).

Colors
Boys in Tha Hood.
He Got Game

On Golden Pond
Kramer vs. Kramer
Godfather

Modern:
BraveHeart
War of the Worlds
Unbreakable

Since you wanted serious movies not comedies. Even though that's what half your list contains.

Short lists that were semi-popular movies there are more.