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  1. It is Fake is offline
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    Posted On:
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    EBMAS Free Fighting Drill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr._Tzun_Tzu
    Trapping happens sometimes, it happens when I put the pressure on in my "Free Fighting Drill: Boxing" here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEUn-XuQf4I

    at 3:05 and 3:09 (slow motions at 6:50).

    But these just happen due to chi saus effect on my arms when I start punching. If I tried to trap on purpose it would be to slow and I rarely guess correctly. It must happen by feel.

    So we do not call it trapping. We do not want to even think about trapping. Just punching and kicking.
    Okay a few of us are going to critique this video. Here lately I've been listening to DTT and trying to refrain from my usual trolling.

    Yet, he has now said it is boxing.
    The above video is a freestyle drill?

    WTF?

    First you either freestyle spar or you don't.
    There is way to much arm punching in that video.
    Your trapping is more grabbing and accidental.
    You both are begging to get destroyed by kicks.
    That guy has reach and you have forced him to fight in your short arm range.
    No hooks no jabs.
    The guy spends more time trying to keep his "stance" then trying to defend himself.

    You keep talking about how progressive EBMAS is compared to other chun.

    I seriously don't see any progression any where in that video.
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    Besides the arm punching (a very bad sign),
    neither of the video participants is any good
    at what they're supposed to be representing.

    Which makes the whole demo a waste of time.

    And, the chun dude is afraid of getting hit, that
    makes me wonder what kind of sparring do they
    do on a daily basis? Keep his stance? He's bailing
    out and flinching on every move by his opponent.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    his head is so far back from being afraid of being hit, he is prime to be taken down. I have a habit of over covering while being punched but

    1 - I make sure I can still see my opponent and his limbs,
    2- I keep a solid base. I circle out of attacks and not straight back.

    These vids are the suxors.
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    The contact seems quite light. It can be difficult to really understand what is working and what isn't when the contact is that light.

    The student is leaving his head WAAAYYYY open. And this is confirmed by the fact that, even with this being some light drilling, he gets tagged in the face repeatedly.

    The instructor, Dr. TzunTzu ?, is not even coming close to "immitating a boxer".

    What would be interesting, and more telling, would be to have one of these guys fight a boxer. And to fight with a lot heavier contact. Otherwise, this seems to me like typical kung fu bullshido.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    You can learn even form light contact...but this is silly.
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    ANd I totally thought the video was going to be deadicated to... Mr. Whiskers, his cat. WTF was up with the cat?
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    Thanks guys I forgot about the whole scared to be hit look.

    There is a lot of pawing going on like DTT is trying to force the trapping.
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    The cat is "Ashida Kitty". Oh jeez. Good one DTT. But the video is "Dedicated to Bullshido", not "too Bullshido".

    Anyways. I'll try to stick to things little by little. First off:

    Concern #1: I can't understand how DTT is supposed to be "the boxer". DTT is still looking for contact first, while a boxer is not going to do that unless he's tired or trying to be in head to head. He'll then hook or uppercut from that point, not jab down the center. Oftentimes boxers will step away from contact while doing this.

    The overhand right looks like it would have been effective for either of them.


    Concern #2: DTT, can you just please, simply, succinctly, tell us what the purpose of that video is? Don't give a long response for this! What is the point? What are you trying to show? If your answer has to be longer than this question, just disregard it.

    Dagon
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    Posted On:
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    DA:
    Good question for dtt. . .
    the answer(s) may help us understand
    something, anything, about that vid clip.

    Bringing in a real boxer would do many
    things:
    1 - make a better demo
    2 - make their training 10x better (especially learning to get hit)
    3 - allow them to learn not only what works, but, how
    4 - question their own art and training to improve it
    5 - help us not wate our time on more of this crap

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    Boxers don't paw at their opponents. These vids really make me feel better. I had a certain image of you..then I started to feel bad about about prejudging...now I feel ok with it.
    Last edited by cyrijl; 8/06/2007 2:37pm at .
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