I didn't catch the whole episode (totally forgot about it), but the only thing that tick me off was Bill not loosing a chance to talk about the deadly, overall it wasn't a bad episode (what I got to watch), but the fight could have been better
Originally Posted by Phrost
The Mighty McClaw to Fox when refusing to fight AnnaT.
Originally Posted by Phrost
Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw
Wingchundo's response after I called him a "*****"
Originally Posted by wingchundo
Originally Posted by FickleFingerOfFate
I've gotten the feeling that none of the fighters (the thai boxer, escrimador and karateka) were really trying to win or hurt the other guy. They looked more like exhibition matches.
Does anyone really expect a master to go all out against someone with maybe, at most, a couple weeks experience in the style? The black belt was obviously holding back during the match, as with the Muay Thai episode. You could tell when he fell backwards how awkward it was for him to pull his punches and kicks. I think that's why Phrost felt like something was missing. It was like watching a cat bat around a mouse for a few minutes before eating it.
Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra
It would be much more interesting if the two hosts fought each other at the end of each episode. Then it wouldn't be so lopsided in terms of skill and the audience can see who the best student was during their training. I'll keep watching though. I'm looking forward to the Judo episode as well
No, but they shouldn't bill it as a fight either. It should be billed as a sparring match with the "champion" going a little easy. To be fair, I'm not sure how easy the escrimador went. That seemed like the one decent "fight" so far.
You, sir are correct. For some reason I had it stuck in my mind, from an article I had read, that Duff studied Judo. I apologize.
Originally Posted by Wolf
I am in agreement that, thus far, the champions have gone lightly, but really, do we think they wouldn't? While it would be amusing to see one of the hosts get the tar beaten out of themselves, I doubt the producers would allow it. There is probably an 'agreement' in place, "we won't pummel your host as long as he doesn't try to make us look like a fool. We will fight down to whatever level they fight up to."
While it seemed like the escrimador went in the match that hardest, Jason seemed more at ease with the Thai fighter then the escrima match-up. Duff just seemed uncomfortable in the Karate match-up. He seemed pensive like he kept *wanting* to do something but then either not having time or not sure how.
And publicizing the end match as a "sparring session", while closer to the truth just kind lacks the dramatic flair as:
:5hypnodis a "fight with the champion" :5hypnodis
Well, if all you want is drama:
Announcer > Stay tuned as our n00b fighters meet their champion for the Ultimate......
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You guys are actually complaining that the Karate black belt guy didn't fight full contact (with head punches) with Bill? Gee, I wonder if the show can have future episodes if the host dies off the show?
Did you see when Bill "accidentally" punched the Karateka in the face? He wasn't following the rules. The Japanese are a VERY rule-abiding bunch. The audience actually gasped at this rude "foreign barbarian" (this is the Japanese word for foreigner, gaijin) breaking a rule. So, they "extended" the match 1 more minute to give him some more punishment as payback. I'm surprised none of y'all caught that. The Japanese are very subtle. An American in the same situation would've shouted and cussed out Bill. I think Bill should've bowed and apologized for hitting the karateka in the face. That would've been a very Japanese thing to do. He would've been great ambassador for America if he did that.
By the way, I LOVED the Muay Thai episode....
I just think it is sad the okinawan villages can only buy one rock per village to train on. All of that aside, it is 2007 and we have better/ more efficient ways of training. Sports science has developed quite a bit in the last 400 years and while it is nice to think of this secret band of karate killers, it is more of a fantasy than a reality.
Yeah the show is very formulaic, but it needs to be. Alot of the people who watch the show probably don't train in martial arts. Of those that do fewer spar at a reasonable level of contact. And of those even fewer fight.
The hosts are told some hokey stuff and then they gaze in amazement and wonder. It is nice to expose more people to these other arts.
Originally Posted by drjoker
I have no problems with the Karateka not throwing punches to the head. That's traditional Kyokushin rules. I have a problem with him not throwing any headkicks. If you're going to bill it as a fight then fight like you would. Otherwise call it an exhibition, friendly, whatever...
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