Thread: UFC 74: Respect - 08/25/2007
8/27/2007 7:33pm, #181
Originally Posted by the yellow dart
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8/27/2007 7:52pm, #182Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
he just chose to stay in heaths weak half guard and pound away tryin to re-arrange the guys face
but, he wanted to 'teach the guy a lesson' so now his image and marketability will suffer for it.....nobody wins in the long run
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8/27/2007 7:53pm, #183
Originally Posted by couch13
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On the second one, I would say that most of the world agreed with me that outside of the clinch Randy didn't have a whole lot of a chance. Unfortunately, Gonzaga didn't train well enough and Randy won. I'm not going to backtrack on what I said since I still believe it's true.
8/27/2007 8:05pm, #184
before the fights, i gave a bit of reasoning on mmaplayground as to why i was going to choose randy. And i must say, my decision was made easier when yellow dart and fathedog were in their heated discussion.
here's what i said
"ultimately, all the factors that make me believe Gonzaga 'should' pull it off are negated when i think of the differences in experience, and the fact that this is a championship fight. The pressure is quite different to perform. And its a 5 rounder. No matter how much ppl say they train for the 5 rounder, if they have never been in it? Well, its no fun after going 2-3 rounds with high intensity (which i know Couture will bring), and at the end of the 3rd, ur beneath a wrestler and realize there's 10 more minutes to go.
for the longest time, i pegged Couture to lose this one, but Couture's not gonna win based on superior physical abilities. It'll be his superior strategy and experience IMO"
and, after watching the pre-shows (countdown and all access) its clear that Couture has the benefit of training with a lot of A-level fighters to help him prepare. Whereas Gonzaga pretty much stayed in his hometown and trained within his own camp.
As most champs nowadays do, they call in the big guns to help them train to the best of their capabilities. I hope Gonzaga learns from this and considers getting outside help for sparring and whatever else
8/27/2007 8:31pm, #185
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Gonzaga vs. Mirko 2.
8/27/2007 8:36pm, #186
I think Cro-Cop should have to win at least one more fight after his next one to earn a title shot. He was KTFO'd by a guy the current champion whipped like a prodigal son, after all. (Yes, I am well aware that all the people who care what I think are over THERE). If anybody is in line for an ass beating from Randy, it should be either Big Nog or Andre Arlovski.
That said, those people that booed Babalu? That's what their breath smells like, BOO BOO BOO! It's a combat sport, after all. I think Babalu is completely justified in what he did, and maybe that will teach Heath not to smack talk a Brazilian. Hurts his marketability? For beating up his opponet in a mixed martial arts match? I guess Randy's marketability will go straight down the tubes too.
8/27/2007 8:52pm, #187
Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli
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8/27/2007 9:05pm, #188
don't forget to throw Brandon Vera into the mix now. Vera vs Cro cop would be a good match up
with sobral/couture, the difference is couture had respect for his opponent, and did what he had to do and inflicted the damage necessary to win a fight.
The fight was personal for Sobral, and albeit Heath had a hand in making it this way, Sobral was vindictive in handing out the punishment all the way from the start to after the fight had ended
point is, sure this stuff happens on occassion where fights get personal. But its rare that the resentment carries on after the fight is over. Even the worst of enemies, BJ/Jens, Tito/Ken, etc, have the decency to squash **** when its over. Sobral obviously didn't care to have any part of respecting his opponent or showing any signs of mercy well after it was clear that heath was ready to give up
As it has been reported, other fighters in the stands were boo'ing Sobral too. That says a lot IMO
8/27/2007 9:20pm, #189
update i just read from mmaweekly
The original publication of this article included an inaccurate statement that David Heath wore a T-shirt with Sobralís mug shot on it in an effort to get under Sobralís skin. Heath DID NOT wear such a T-shirt. In fact, he was wearing a shirt representing his sponsor Warrior Wear and it had no reference whatsoever to Sobral. MMAWeekly would like to apologize to David Heath and his camp for the error and any unwarranted attention that it reflected upon David Heath.
8/27/2007 10:45pm, #190Originally Posted by the yellow dartMore human than human is our motto.