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    This thread has been very interesting. Although my style says wrestling I have done the chun and still practice a subset of it because I enjoy it. There I said it. Now, I have been reading a lot about WC not working on its own in MMA. True, but neither does pure boxing or wrestling. Even pure MT and BJJ do not fare as well as they used to in MMA events.

    I think the majority of people who take WC do so to be able to use it against other more or less untrained people if the need should arise, they see the chun as giving them an advantage, not making them the deadly. And since the majority of people never have to deal with a situation much more threatening than harsh language they are right. They have no intention of being athletes or competing and are looking for something simple that works. Most gyms that teach either MMA or its core skills (MT, BJJ, Boxing, etc) do so at an intensity that is way beyond what Joe Average is looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Actually, no. This thread is starting to turn into a trollfest. I don't want the old tired debates of well if you learn it right, from this teacher, I have the real, it is the teacher not the art.

    Your type of comment is better used in a YMAS chun thread. We have thousands of those.
    Bro I wasn't trying to turn this into a trollfest. I was just speaking my opinion and I was not trying to start any kind of confusion. Anyways its cool though bro, nice to meet you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1K3
    This thread has been very interesting. Although my style says wrestling I have done the chun and still practice a subset of it because I enjoy it. There I said it. Now, I have been reading a lot about WC not working on its own in MMA. True, but neither does pure boxing or wrestling. Even pure MT and BJJ do not fare as well as they used to in MMA events.

    I think the majority of people who take WC do so to be able to use it against other more or less untrained people if the need should arise, they see the chun as giving them an advantage, not making them the deadly. And since the majority of people never have to deal with a situation much more threatening than harsh language they are right. They have no intention of being athletes or competing and are looking for something simple that works. Most gyms that teach either MMA or its core skills (MT, BJJ, Boxing, etc) do so at an intensity that is way beyond what Joe Average is looking for.
    Nice post, M1K3. Thanx for turning the light of reason on at the end of the chun-hate tunnel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonuzaba
    Nice post, M1K3. Thanx for turning the light of reason on at the end of the chun-hate tunnel.
    Do I really need to go quote hunting? Really Really?

    The chun hate tunnel was built by chunners so hate yourselves. Deadliest art was said by many chunners. Just like boxing but better was said by many chunners. We don't need to train alive was said by many chunners. They do believe the deadly.

    That is where this whole debate started. Chunners saying Chi Sau is just as good as sparring.

    So, all he did was shine the light back on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King117
    Bro I wasn't trying to turn this into a trollfest. I was just speaking my opinion and I was not trying to start any kind of confusion. Anyways its cool though bro, nice to meet you.
    What he's trying to say is that if you make an statement, back it up with facts and well-thought explanations. These particular forums requires you to explain in detail your POVs. Simply saying "Real X is a powerful art" doesn't mean anything. What's powerful? For what? Compared to what? What makes it powerful?
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    What's all this pseudish crap about 'delivery system' again ?
    You've been in the debates you know.
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    It's meaningless marketing speak. I defy anybody here to give me a concise definition of 'delivery system' that doesn't restate something obvious that was well known before Thornton whooped his first Bruce Lee noise.
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    It's meaningless marketing speak. I defy anybody here to give me a concise definition of 'delivery system' that doesn't restate something obvious that was well known before Thornton whooped his first Bruce Lee noise.
    Wow much easier to say what you mean than to be cryptic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Do I really need to go quote hunting? Really Really?
    The chun hate tunnel was built by chunners so hate yourselves. ...
    So, all he did was shine the light back on you.
    I was actually saying what you were saying: that this discussion (in this particular thread about what -un training should incorporate according to Southpaw) should be kept free from YMAS-ish bashing.
    M1K3's post was an example of posts that don't bash rabidly.
    I said well done to him. That's all.

    Besides, I doubt your quote hunt would turn up anything written by me, that would go along the lines of:
    Deadliest art was said by many chunners. Just like boxing but better was said by many chunners. We don't need to train alive was said by many chunners. They do believe the deadly.
    That is where this whole debate started. Chunners saying Chi Sau is just as good as sparring.
    The one thing I miss from this thread is the presence of actual -ing -un teachers here, who are the ones Southpaw directed his words to...
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