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  1. truepwrz is offline

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    Posted On:
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    can jumprope really replace jogging

    hi now i am working 12hours a day at a resturant and i only have 2 hours to train in the morning every day so i can only do sprints for cardio asides from jogging or skipping but i really dont have the time to do both and at fighthouse the owner told me if i dont have grassland to jog on its better to just jumprope. some advice please
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    Rope work...once you get down the timing, kicks and all the different movements - will not only give you a better cardio benefit than jogging - it will also enhance your timing and ability to move lightly on your feet.

    Before I busted up both knees and an ankle - rope work was too damn cool.
    Turn on the radio - to a station that has a good up-beat....and kind of figure each song is about 3 mins long....4 songs with the chatter of the DJ between will be about 15 to 20 mins.

    Change your steps in jumping to suit the changing tempo of the songs - next thing you know, you have done 20 mins or more.
    Both upper and lower body get worked - and you will sweat like crazy. Use a leather rope, find out how to pick the right length...ball bearing handles. Why leather? Because even if you can not figure out the timing - a few good smacks to your body with a fast moving leather 'rope' will inspire you. Body avoids pain - even if the brain cant do so.

    Some ropes even have weighted handles - really make your arms feel it.

    Some of the other benefits are that - if you can find a dependable place indoors - then the weather is no problem....though I preferred to jump out of doors. There is much less of a boring factor - there is always a more advanced transition or movement to learn.

    IMO- this is one of the best forms of supplemental training an athlete can take up. The benefits to a student of martial study....go way beyond simple cardio work.

    Martial movement is all about - err, MOVEMENT. Since the contact to the ground is usually with the feet...moving well and skillfully on the feet is a basic thing. The body gets a great overall workout. And since strikes start from the ground...and even transitions to the ground - as in JJ or wrestling or MMA - start with smooth, powerful and sensitive spatial relations to the standing positions...I can not stress enough that if you must choose between jogging or taking the more difficult choice to actually learn to 'skip the rope' - the rope rules.

    Most interested in cardio simply do not want to put in as much time as it takes to get to a competent level of jumping skill - it is work! And usually take sat least a month to just get the basics down.

    I know, in a controlled test - where over the course of 5 months; 2 evenly compared individuals did this:
    1 jogs for 30 mins, 3 - 4 times a week.
    1 learns how to work a rope under the same time conditions.
    NOTHING ELSE!

    And after 5 months - in an overall test of fitness...I would bet my next months earnings that the rope worker will come out as the better trained athlete.
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    Reaction time, physical strength and cardio - obstacle course and such - the rope worker will win, hands down.
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    I would still jump today - if my left ankle was not so fuct up.

    Sprints are great for cardio and leg strength - the burst for good shooting in. I would guess, for you - time spent in skipping with good training shoes with some wind sprints will serve you well.
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    I say, if your pressed for time, alternate them. You say you have 2 hours a day. Do sprints one day and jump rope the next. Also, if you have 2 hours, what else are you doing? Are you sprinting or rope jumping for 2 hours straight? Normally I wouldnt ask, but this is you were talking about.
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    Yeah you need variety in training. I wouldn't neglect running completely. Long distance jogging is pretty pointless though, i'd only use it initially to build up a base level of cardio and even then i wouldn't jog at a slow pace. Throw in intervals and Fartlek training for variety. Also, a routine like the one in the link below is great and a real killer:

    http://www.rosstraining.com/sequenti...echallenge.pdf

    Here's a couple of jump rope articles too, the second one is better:

    http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym26.htm

    http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/jumprope2.htm

    My little routine at the moment involves me doing 100 turns of the rope with 20 reps of a bodyweight exercise at the end ie squats, burpees, plyo pushups etc. I also give myself a penalty of 5 burpees for every time i break the chain of jumps. I'm really poor at the moment so end up doing about an extra 30-50 burpess per set! Repeat this 3-5 times with little to no rest for a decent workout.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whorian Gracie
    Nothing replaces jogging. Nothing replaces rope work. You need both so do them both and don't make time an excuse. If you are married with a kid and a mortgage, then I'll pretend to understand your time issues.

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    A multitude of things replace jogging.
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    jogging sucks
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    I hate jogging. I hate that **** with a passion. Sprinting, running up and down stairs, or skipping are more fun.
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    Posted On:
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    I find having my guy on Rainbow Six running and shooting down Tangos gives me the same cardio benefit as running a mile.

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    Posted On:
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    meh at jogging. i dont jog at all for my training, **** that ****. far better things you can do.

    oh and why dont you try telling your boss to **** off considering its illegal to make someone work more than an 8 hour day as faras i know. and shouldnt you be at school?
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    http://buddyleejumpropes.com/

    This guy makes the best jump ropes and has good instructionals.
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