Dagon, that is a totally legitimate concern regarding takedowns in stickfighting, and is something that the dog brothers have been playing with a lot over the last decade or so. With my group I've noticed a lot of my guys getting stuck in clinch, or ignoring the fact that someone could just shoot in and ground and pound them. I'm hoping to someone remedy this by bringing in my Judo/Sombo instructor to make them aware of this possibility as far as a real fight goes. Many stick fighters just stand there in clinch attempting to repeatedly slap weak ass abanico hits from this situtation, instead of tossing their opponent on their head. For some reason a lot of the old timers just don't even consider this, perhaps because it is not an advisable thing to try against a blade. Nevertheless, it is a totally valid tactic against an impact weapon.
I also agree that a lot of the static training in FMA is overempasized, to the point where many newbs get mislead into thinking that a fight will look like that, with your opponent standing there with his stick outstretched while you flurry off 20 strikes and then disarm him. It just isn't so. Doing this type of stuff has a place in training, where you learn how to effectively flurry and hook up combos, similar to how boxers hit focus mitts. But in reality, you won't be able to do this in a real fight. You may get off a two or three hit flurry, and you should make sure to make the hits count. This leads into one of my two favorite parts about the show.
Chambers is hitting some tires, when one of the old masters comes up to him and says something to the effect of "Stop dancing. This isn't a dance, it is a fight! You need to stop worrying about dancing, and concern yourself with hitting hard." This was the only bit of coaching that really impressed me. I think that this point cannot be overstated enough, and is one of my biggest knocks on many FMA stylists. Flow drills and rythmic footwork alone will not teach you how to fight. In my opinion, they may do the exact opposite, encouraging soft and passive defense and predictable timing.
The fight at the end was good, and it was good to see them go unarmored. I thought that Chambers' performance spoke highly of mma-style live, contact training in that he performed FAR better than his opponent expected, due to his aggression, evasion, and conditioning. Chambers was definitely outclassed in the stickhandling, but his timing and cardio was obviously pretty good and helped make up for his lack of pure stick skills.
Another nice post, Ryno. But for the record, Chambers claimes some prior Escrima training.
I liked the street "demo" in the beginning.
Good program but I haven't seen the last 15 minutes yet.
"If anything is gained from this, it should be you both wanting to get better so you can make up for how crappy you are now." KidSpatula about the Sirc vs DTT Gong Sau Event
Until the Bulltube is fixed:
DTT vs Sirc
I agree, other than showing them hitting the tires, they made no effort to explain power generation, the different angles/types of strikes and focused to much on the 'fancy' stuff instead.
Yah.......those aren't metal rods.
Originally Posted by Matt W.
The hosts are retarded. i'm holding a stripped one of those sticks in my hand right now. It's a very thin rattan core, and the cloth would come off very very quickly if it were metal of any kind. It's essentially a lite version of the lameco sticks. It's good to have just because it's relatively stiff and cheap as hell to buy. However, it WILL break on you.
I actually think the fight at the end would have been much better with headgear on, even if only light headgear. You could tell they were both shying away from head shots, which changes the dynamic of the fight. Head shots demand respect, and force you to actually defend.
Originally Posted by Ryno
I agree with the criticism of them spending too much time on fancy movements and unneccessarily complicated take down maneuvers. But hey, that kind of stuff is what hooks in the casual fans so I don't begrudge them their need to get some butts in the seats. What I appreciate about this show is that they seem to be spending time with people who are genuinely passionate and knowledgable about the arts rather than some mullet-headed, beer-gutted "Sensei" down at the local McDojo. The dedication and skill on display in the Escrima episode gives me a guilty conscience. I've never seen anything like it in the States.
Line of the night: Jason Chambers practicing on the tire stack with the typical fancy movements when one of the older gentlemen comes up to him and says something along the lines of "Stop Dancing! This is not a dance studio! This is a martial arts studio!" I wanted to give him a standing ovation....
You see the force recon marines working the footwork, but no discussion of it
Originally Posted by Naszir
Originally Posted by Dagon Akujin
There is no TKD ep.
Upcoming eps are : Karate and Savate Streetfighting. TKD isn't even on there MA list
Actually, all TKD bashing aside, that's a bit surprising considering it is hugely popular world-wide and an Olympic sport.
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