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  1. Scott Larson is offline
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    Posted On:
    7/29/2007 8:32pm


     Style: Ba Zheng Dao Quan

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    Human Weapon - Escrima Episode

    Sorry, didn't see it and I know nothing of the style, but there is a Muay Thai thread, so I thought there should be one for this too.

    Who has seen it? Any good?
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    Posted On:
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    I saw the episode on Escrima and found it to be very interesting. I have never practiced any FMA's but I find them to be very interesting. There should be some reruns on the History channel about it. I enjoyed this episode even more than the Muay Thai one, but that could be because I've watched other documentaries on Muay Thai in the past and it wasn't all that much new.
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    7/29/2007 11:23pm


     Style: Wing Chun, Hung Gar

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    The fight at the end was much more impressive this time around.
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    Posted On:
    7/30/2007 2:14am


     Style: BJJ, Judo

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    While it wasn't BAD, I personally didn't find it too impressive.

    They seem to focus more on a single 'technique' to try to use instead of focusing on the basics.

    For instance, they made no mention at all about FMA's triangular footwork, which is probably one of the most defining and important aspects of the art.
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    Posted On:
    7/30/2007 7:05am


     Style: BJJ, Judo, SAMBO

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    Exactly. No time was spent on drilling triangles. Which is surprising seeing as how they were with GT Gaje. The PTK guys should be able to attest about his love of drilling footwork. I was very happy to see them refer to the Filipino troops during WWII. Although it was a little sad not to see any references to Dog Brothers or the Stockton community especially in light of the teachers they interviewed.
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    Posted On:
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    Most likely the blasphemic TV producers edited the episode to remove the "boring" stuff and make it more palatable to the brainless herd animals... err... audience. No one want to see them doing footwork. They want to see people wacking each other with sticks.

    You guys have to remember these are not intended to be documentaries. These are "edutaiment" shows. Hopefully I can watch the re-run for this episode.
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    Posted On:
    7/30/2007 7:49am


     Style: BJJ, Judo, SAMBO

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    I understand the reasons, I just hate that they didn't even get a blurb or passing shot of it. It would be like doing a show on freestyle wrestling and not showing a double leg or a sprawl. BTW Question, are you going to the Balicki seminar?
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    Posted On:
    7/30/2007 10:43am

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     Style: Judo, TKD BB

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    I thought it was pretty cool. I liked the sparring. I was impressed by the competition aspect, including the one with the masks and padded jackets. The fight at the end with the padded metal rods was also badass. I must admit to being a bit "TUF noobish" when it comes to Escrima. I actually thought the dog brothers were doing something new...

    Some of the disarms and throws seemed a bit unrealistic though. Elaborate set-ups and multi strike/movement followups where the always compliant opponent just stands there. Although, a disarm was pulled off in the final fight, so...
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    Posted On:
    7/30/2007 12:26pm


     Style: Ving Tsun

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    I kept getting the feeling that Jason Chambers could have just taken the guy down and gone for the GnP. I would have much rather seen them fight some of the Dog Brothers.

    I understand that they are fighting/sparring the way the art practices... but does that mean that if they did a TKD episode, when Bill loses against a flippy-spin kick in a point sparring match that they'll say the guy was the uber-deadly? Would they simply have them do chi-sao and then say, "Wow, that guy with 20 years beat me in chi-sao. It must be the deadly"?

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    Posted On:
    7/30/2007 12:46pm


     Style: BJJ, Judo, SAMBO

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    The difference being, a kick to your hand in TKD competition won't usually break your finger. That said, they are working within the rules of the art, which is why he didn't shoot in on the thai boxer in the previous episode. Also he was at a Doce Pares event. I can't speak from experience but the PTK guys I know as well as the I/L groups I have worked with believe in dumog(wrestling) as an integral part of the art and their sparring, unless specifically working a range like largo mano, reflects this.
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