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  1. conceited is offline

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    ATTN: Military Folks, if you have time I have questions.

    This is my first thread I hope it is in the right place.

    I am currently working on a game in my free time with a group of people. The game is a military RPG. There are plenty of first person shooters out there but our goal is to really capture LIFE in the military not just the fighting. I have done alot of research over the net the past few months so I'm not completely green.

    I would especially appreciate experiences during war time. Any will do, but obviously the fighting will be the major draw.

    These are some specific questions I would like some answers to. There will be more and I will update regularly.

    1) As an enlisted man. How much contact did you have with your CO's?

    2) What were the specific duties of officers?

    3) What do you have to do to become a Combat Medic?

    4) As a paratrooper what types of planes would you jump from?

    5) What were some things you did that someone like me wouldn't realise just reading off the net or reading books/watching movies?

    6) What were some things you did with each other that brought down the tension of the situation? (having a cigarette, playing cards...)

    7) How much freedom did you have to choose the weapons you took into battle?

    8) For you gamers out there, what kind of stuff would you like to see implemented into a game like this?

    9) Can you give me or link me to a good list of medals available and the requirements to get them?

    10) What is some of your favorite military slang?

    I'll take any questions and anyone who goes "above and beyond" will receive credit once the game is published.

    Thank you so much for your time!
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    Additional questions already:

    11) What are the specific duties of each member of the fireteam?

    12) How close were you with the members of your fireteam/squad/platoon/company/battalion etc. etc.?
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    This is coming from an enlisted Marine, so keep that in mind.

    1. Little to none. Of course, I tapped out pre-NCO. Honestly, though, it seemed like the only enlisted men that dealt with the CO were the E-8s and E-9s (both billets, as Master Sgts and Master Guns would speak with the CO as "Experts" in their specific MOS).

    This is why there is a chain of command.

    2. The officers in my unit acted primarily as a liaison between the "Enlisted Management" (platoon sgts, etc...) and the "Officer Management" when acting in the capacity of Platoon Commander, etc.... There are some billets which have very specific responsibilities (XO, etc...), but I don't have experience with that.

    3. In the Marines, you don't become a "Combat Medic". The "Combat Medics" in the Marines are Navy Corpsmen, who enlist in the Navy and choose Corpsman as an occupation. They undergo a lot of specialized training that involves everything from routine first aid to battlefield surgery...though most of it is REALLY quick and hardly indepth from what I've heard.

    4. Can't answer this one. Never went to Jump School.

    5. For one, military service is HARDLY as romantic or exciting as you think it is. You spend most of your time cleaning, primping your uniform/boots, and other mundane activities. Even field exercises are hardly exciting, and usually amount to waiting several hours, bored off your ass, for an hour or so of actual "Field X". Depends on the MOS, though.

    6. Humor. Lots and LOTS of humor. Most military guys have a great sense of humor, and the "Locker Room" mentality of the military contributes to a lot of great jokes and stories.

    7. None. You are issued what your job rates, and you have no choice in what you're issue. Again, this may change for the higher speed MOS's...but most GIs have to put up with the standard M16A2 and MAYBE a bayonet.

    8. I'm an avid gamer, and the thing I'd like to see removed from a military centered game is the concept of the "Rogue Soldier". There is little room to deviate from the norm, and those that do are typically dealt with quickly and severely. In other words, there are no "Special" military guys...you either do your best to fit in and do what you're told, or you get punished.

    9. Nope, sorry. I never received any cool medals/badges except for the "Good Cookie" and the "War Time" freebie everyone got.

    10. Head = Restroom, Scuttlebutt = Fountain, Swab = Mop, Firearm/Weapon/Rifle = Gun (meaning you do NOT call your Rifle a "gun"), Cover = Hat, Moonboots = Combat Boots, Jungle Boots = Hot Weather Boots, Chow = Food, Timepiece = Watch, Moonbeam = Flashlight, Civies = Normal Clothes, Hygiene = Grooming (used like a verb, "Everyone go hygiene now!"), Fly Boys/Civilians in Uniform = Airforce, Squids = Navy

    11. Crap, it's been a while...from what I remember, there were 4-5 members of the Fire Team. The Fire Team Leader (leads the group, directs movement), the Gunner (carries a SAW and provides primary suppressive cover), and I can't remember what the other 2-3 guys do. I think they just flank the team. It's been a while, I wasn't an 03 (03 is the MOS designation for Infantry, with the last two numbers designation the Infantry position. i.e. 0311 is Basic Rifleman, 0331 is Machine Gunner, 0321 is Recon, etc...)

    12. Very. Assuming you aren't a social moron, you WILL make friends with at least a dozen or so guys in your crew. Your best friends will usually be those who work in your direct unit and your rack mates (room mates). You get REALLY close with people REALLY quickly...and in the Marines, guys who don't look out for their "Brothers" are usually shunned and get a lot of ****.

    Hope that helps.

    Send a PM to Phrost (Army), Airman Kai (Airforce), and Red Elvis (Marines). I believe we might even have a few high speed Airborn Infantry and Recon guys here as well.
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    1. Little to none - the CO is an administrator until you **** up big time.

    2. Admin, planning and supervision of large scale operations.

    3. Go to combat lifesaver school.

    4. C-130.

    5. Spent loads of time obsessively prepping my gear for an op.

    6. Pranks, and dreaming about home, dreaming about the future, eating.

    7. ZE-RO!

    8. Lots f death - easy to get killed suddenly

    10. Chow = food, WTF = what the ****, one delta ten tango = idiot, slimed = used chemical weapons, wasted = killed, MRE = meal ready to eat, Blue falcon = buddy fucker, high speed = term used by POGs to describe someone they think is tough, POG = non combat soldier (used as a slur,) hajis = arabs (slur,)

    11. Team leader - yells at the other guys, ususally a SGT E-5 or an E-4 corpral Machine Gunner - E-3 or specialist E-4, Grenadier carries an M-203 and rifleman or Designated Marksman carries a plain old M-16 with a 4x scope or an M-24 sniper rifle

    12. Lifelong friends. Never forget those motherfuckers.
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    Conceited, are your questions jsut regards the US army or are you wanting answers from members/ ex members of other armies?
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    why not. I'll throw in with this thread, but im not sure how relevant this will be to your game.



    1) As an enlisted man. How much contact did you have with your CO's?
    Not a great deal. You would have quite a bit of contact with platoon and company commanders, but very little with anyone above that.

    2) What were the specific duties of officers?
    From our observations it appears that their duties were to get in the way, give stupid orders that the senior NCO's then had to talk them out of and general administration.
    Most of them are fairly pointless really.


    3) What do you have to do to become a Combat Medic?
    2 years specialist training.


    4) As a paratrooper what types of planes would you jump from?
    I wasn't a paratrooper, but for our guys who do jump it would be the c-130


    5) What were some things you did that someone like me wouldn't realise just reading off the net or reading books/watching movies?
    Constant thorough checking and rechecking of gear.


    6) What were some things you did with each other that brought down the tension of the situation? (having a cigarette, playing cards...)
    had a few laughs, horsed around some


    7) How much freedom did you have to choose the weapons you took into battle?
    None what so ever.


    8) For you gamers out there, what kind of stuff would you like to see implemented into a game like this?
    Good question. I'll have to think that one through some.


    9) Can you give me or link me to a good list of medals available and the requirements to get them?
    http://medals.nzdf.mil.nz/category/default.htm


    10) What is some of your favorite military slang?
    this is going back a long way.

    REMF- Rear echelon ************
    Rupert- Officer
    Clown- 2nd liutenant
    mushroomed- Kept in the dark and fed bullshit
    7 P'er- from the acronymn Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance
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    oh, there are more questions:

    11) What are the specific duties of each member of the fireteam?

    Section commander- Leads and shouts a lot
    Section 2IC- Second in command of section. Will also direct the gun group
    Gunner- operates the C9
    Number 2 gunner- Backs up the gunner (together they make up the gun group)
    Grenadier- Has M203
    Sig- Carries a big bloody radio
    Scout- what you yankees would refer to as a 'point man'. Typically this is the dude who has the best eyesight and general bush skills. IF there is a trained tracker in the section, he'll get the scout role.
    Cover scout- Backs up the scout (usually carries an M203 as well)
    Riflemen- general purpose grunts

    There was a major restructuring shortly after I left the army, apparently its all different now. But hey, thats my 2 cents


    12) How close were you with the members of your fireteam/squad/platoon/company/battalion etc. etc.?
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    I was an enlisted human intelligence guy, so keep that in mind when you read my answers.

    1) In garrison, very little. In a deployed environment got drawn into conversions with Light to Full Colonels about twice a week, since we were one of the handful of units that were his primary sources of information.

    2) Administrative, primarily, unless you're a Lieutenant in a combat arms MOS, then you'll likely be as deep in the **** as the rest of your platoon.

    3) Get MOS qualified as a medic. Then get deployed with an infantry unit. Poof. You are now a combat medic.

    4) C-130 for normal jumps. HALO and the like, I have no clue.

    5) Hmmm... duct taping people in the porta potties?

    6) Morbid humor. Hooked up a PS2 to an Iraqi-bought television and played some Madden. Scorpion vs. Camel spider duels. Weapons maintenance.

    7) Firearms: None. Blades and the like, pretty much up to the individual soldier.

    8) Good implementation of grenade fuses and 'cookoffs'. Good AI reaction to said grenades. AI flanking, suppressive fire and the like.

    9) http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armym.../blarmedal.htm
    Keep in mind that awards for enlisted, especially lower enlisted, are frequently downgraded by the officers, regardless if the soldier actually is qualified for the higher award. Here's an overheard quote from a Lt. Colonel: "For officers were have an MSM (Meritorious Service Medal) for enlisted we have an Arcom (Army Commendation) and for lower enlisted the AAM (Army Achievement Medal)." A common joke, "Yeah, he was put in for a Silver Star, was downgraded to a Bronze Star at Battalion, the to an MSM at Brigade. Yesterday they gave him a Certificate of Achievement."

    10) DTFRT (Deader than **** right there), the standard movie crap usually holds true. FUBAR, SNAFU. Bullet Sponge, Bipedal Mine Finder, Jarhead = Marine. Puddle Pirate = Coast Guard. Chair Force. Ditch Diggers = Army (for the Air Force or the Navy) Perfumed Prince = (Don't remember where this came from. A book that got passed around my unit and the term caught on. A high-ranking officer who got where he is through politics rather than martial expertise.) Flaming Coffin = M2 Bradley fighting vehicle. Brain Bucket = Helmet. Woobie = Blanket, especially the Poncho Liner. Fartsack = Sleeping bag. Puss Pad = ground mat. REMF = Rear Echelon Mother Fucker. 100 mile an hour tape = Duct tape in olive drab, pretty much. 550 cord = paracord

    Can't think of others off the top of my head.

    11) Not an infantryman. Can't help much there.

    12) Very. You can't hang with a bunch of guys with the possibility that one of you won't come back from mission and not get very close. Now, that being said, if one of those people is a cock biter then there will likely be expressed hatred. Usually, even then, soldiers will go out on a limb for each other without thinking about it.

    I don't want to be a downer, but in a lot of regards life in the military outside of combat ops can be summed up as:

    Hurry up and wait.
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    Thanks for your answers guys I really appreciate it, I'm forming some more questions from my friends as we speak. 1's a four year marine infantrymen, anothers a 2 year army guy, and my whole family was military. Once again, they can't give me everything. I'd also like some input from navy and air force guys as well. My next questions will probably be directed primarily at them.

    To answer your question pong, I'm looking for information from EVERY branch from EVERY country. It's ambitious I know, but we Uhmurrickuns need allies and enemies. Plus we plan on making foreign special forces unlockable, like the Brits SAS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conceited
    It's ambitious I know, but we Uhmurrickuns need allies and enemies. Plus we plan on making foreign special forces unlockable, like the Brits SAS.
    Just don't make any Arab militias unlockable, you don't want that kind of attention. I think it's funny, how much more trouble an historically accurate representation of such a group would draw as compared to the anonymous terrorists in Counter-Strike.

    Come to think of it, you'd REALLY get in trouble if you included the Afghanistan Mujahideen as allies and made some mention of _sama bin Laden being a financier of the group (noting the point in history, of course).

    All that aside, unlockable historic campaigns would be a major selling point if you could pull it off.
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