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  1. ett40146 is offline

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    I do flex my wrist VERY slightly for full alignment, when I punch with full force, otherwise I would get wrist injuries.
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    there is a major misconception about 3 knuckle punching. with 3 knuckle punching one lands with the ring finger not the pinkie, this protects the pinkie. also, bareknuckle boxers used to use 3 knuckle punches because it protected thier fists from damage. jack dempsey is a common example of a great three knuckle lander, however look no further than jim driscoll for your answer. Featherweight champion of the 1900's, knocked out people with his fucking jab and landed three knuckle.
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    Punching with the Botton Three is Superior.

    You get less power and are more liable to **** Your Hands/wrists Up if you throw the other way. I was recently speaking to an oesteopath about this (OK admittedly he was a 'cranial' Osteopath) but he still seemed to agree with me.

    Vertical Fist Punch hitting with the Botton three Knuckles is the best way to punch hard and NOT **** Up your anantomy.
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    Boxer's fracture happen when one hits, but instead of landing with the ring knuckle as intended, the pinky knucle gets caught by itself unintentional. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer%27s_fracture
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear1980
    Punching with the Botton Three is Superior.

    You get less power and are more liable to **** Your Hands/wrists Up if you throw the other way. I was recently speaking to an oesteopath about this (OK admittedly he was a 'cranial' Osteopath) but he still seemed to agree with me.

    Vertical Fist Punch hitting with the Botton three Knuckles is the best way to punch hard and NOT **** Up your anantomy.
    And you learned all of this when you filled all the little circles with a #2 pencil BJJ blue belt test.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear1980
    Punching with the Botton Three is Superior.

    You get less power and are more liable to **** Your Hands/wrists Up if you throw the other way. I was recently speaking to an oesteopath about this (OK admittedly he was a 'cranial' Osteopath) but he still seemed to agree with me.

    Vertical Fist Punch hitting with the Botton three Knuckles is the best way to punch hard and NOT **** Up your anantomy.
    You do wing chun.

    You are unlikely to break a handbone until you learn to use your hips and legs to punch, some time far in the future after changing arts, so it doesn't matter for you, but you're actually less likely, anatomically, to break the top two, since the bottom two are less anchored, less supported, and since the pinky is particularly vulnerable. If you're hurting your wrists on a horizontal impact, it's because you're overselling the relaxation to the moment of impact - tense earlier and punch with some good form. You also have to build up horizontal stabilization just like you did for your vertical fist, which didn't happen overnight.

    All you vertical fist people, you don't just abandon the vertical fist for a few punches, try the horizontal on your own, hurt yourself and say "bottom three is obviously empirically better"

    There's a proper form for hitting with the top two you have teach yourself with bagwork, over time.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    And you learned all of this when you filled all the little circles with a #2 pencil BJJ blue belt test.
    He STILL hasn't answered where he got his blue belt from?! Hasn't it been like 3 months or something?
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    Nope. He still refuses to answer in the vain hopes the question will go away on its own, like Comet Kohoutek :tard:

    Bear, the question will not go away. It will remain, even after a nuclear blast, just like roaches and taxes.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Okay, big font time for Bear1980:


    Not even orthopedic surgeons
    who specialize in fixing
    the hands of boxers
    can agree on which way
    is less likely to cause a break.


    Does someone need a hug?
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    There are not a lot of articles in Medicine about martial arts, compared to other sports. I doubt many surgeons are martial artists. You break your hand, that is 6 months of no work, no work, no pay. I double wrap, with 2 lb gloves on top of my each of my hands. Heck with 2 lb gloves, the opponent are not going to feel the difference between me hitting him with the first two, first one, or last three knuckles anyway.
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