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  1. dandangojuman is offline

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    7/12/2007 12:38pm

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     Style: okinawan goju ryu karate

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    this house believes: most modern practioners do not understand karate

    Hi

    After talking to a lot of people and generally lurking around the interweb since taking up okinawan goju ryu 18 months ago i am coming to the conclusion quality instruction is sparse. I am throwing this open to the floor to hear more learned opinions from the members here:

    1.) instruction seems expensive ( i pay 90 or $180 per Quarter)
    2.) for this i can train 4 times a week (twice with a 6th dan and twice with a 5th dan)
    3.) sparring is on the decrease ( we use randori, semi contact and iri kumi, full contact)
    4.) Bunkai are being watered down and perverted into dance
    5.) grappling and atemi waza is taught less in favour of harder contact to non-vital areas or WKF point sparring
    6.) people just don't understand kata

    for those interested in my lineage: 3rd kyu brown belt, with Goju Ryu Karate Do International (GKI)

    cheers
  2. Plasma is online now
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    Posted On:
    7/12/2007 3:37pm

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     Style: 柔術

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    18 months ago?

    I once heard from a Karate Instructor "No one know more about Karate then a green belt? If you doubt that just ask him."
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    Posted On:
    7/12/2007 3:43pm

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    dandangojuman, I am afraid I am not really getting your point. What are you trying to say?
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    Posted On:
    7/12/2007 3:44pm

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    Wait, you are a brown belt after 18months?
  5. Goju - Joe is offline
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    Huh

    I am supposed to go for my brown grading and it's taken me 5 years
  6. Plasma is online now
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    Posted On:
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     Style: 柔術

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    Took me 5 years to get a brown belt and I been a brown belt for a year now.
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    Posted On:
    7/12/2007 5:49pm

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     Style: Bits and pieces

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    Yeah 4 1/2 years to get 3rd kyu in shorin ryu. I agreea lot of karate has lost it's way, but what do you think was the main reason for that happening, and what can be done about it?
  8. Elky is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/12/2007 6:00pm


     Style: Shotokan Karate

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    Are you saying you're unhappy with your training? So train somewhere else.

    Are you generalising from your experience with one club in saying "most modern practitioners do not understand karate"? I'm not saying I disagree with your statement and I'm not sure I care whether I "understand karate" or not, but if you're concluding that from your experience with one club, it's a bit of a stretch!
  9. dandangojuman is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/13/2007 9:53am

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     Style: okinawan goju ryu karate

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    No am i referring to a lot of practitioners from other styles i knew previously or have met since starting.
    I'm not denying i've done well to make 3rd kyu in 18 months, but then i've put at least 3 hours at the dojo a week plus several hours outside. I am also fortunate in being able to train with the most senior grades in the organisation regularly.
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    Posted On:
    7/13/2007 10:16am

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    3 hours a week of class time is not a lot, in fact, I would argue that is very little.

    Where specifically do you train?

    Care to share a bit of how a given class is structured?
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