Originally Posted by jonnie11
I have no opinion as I know nothing of CKD nor Mr Allison. However he is featured in this month's Martial Arts Illustrated. Perhaps you might want to write to Bob Sykes its Editor to express your concerns.
For myself, I may have to stop taking MAI; there's too much uncritical comment and it's championed Bob Spour (recently found out) and Uncle Frank Dux. Hmm, a worrying trend.
Hi all..losing my virginity on the boards after ages watching from the sidelines so please...plenty of foreplay, be gentle and dont hate me in the morning! I was surprised to see Ralph Allison being given pole position in MAI until I saw the large advert which followed it. This echoed the practise of "Fighters" magazine, a once proud publication which deteriorated into a vanity rag which would sell you the cover feature plus five pages in the mag for £500. Its eventual decline came as no surprise. I didnt think Id see MAI wander down the same path and would urge Bob Sykes to take a long hard look at the calibre of some of his recent cover "stars" My issue with Mr Allison is his McDojo approach to marketing which differs very little to CKDs with Chi Combat being the universal panacea for all martial art ills. Does he realise he holds the hopes, fears and aspirations of his students and owes them honesty? Has Chi Combat been pressure tested? Is it that different to CKD? How can an art not tested under at least combat simulation be deemed to be anywhere near combat effective? No doubt his argument would be that his students love it and if we dont like it we dont have to play. God help any of these poor Clark Kents should they ever decide to put their skills to the test. Another dry-land swimming course!
"Do not lead me into temptation.....I know a short cut!"
Originally Posted by ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE
I don't know anything about martial arts, I don't even remember how I found this forum but after reading this post I had to register. That is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Had me in stitches. Good stuff.
Don't you know how idiots can end up on the front cover of martial arts magazines? It's all about the money for the magazine. I am sure that Allison purchased a large number of copies (perhaps thousands) which he then uses to promote himself. When I was in CKD for example, Kwang Choi would buy 5000 copies of TKD Times to be on the front cover or he would buy 10000 magazines from Paul Clifton (combat magazine, tkd & korean arts...) to be on the front cover of his magazines. It's all a giant scam....
Originally Posted by Eddie Hardon
A very quick reply to Jonnies post. I agree with your observations and its made me wonder exactly who the magazines or "comics" as we used to refer to them are aiming at. I suspect that membership doesnt skyrocket as a result of being featured in a mag and I would also hazard a guess that none of the mags undertake real research as to the demographic of their audience. I bought Combat avidly as a young tkd student in the 80s as I had a thirst for anything "martial arts". I didnt know enough then to be critical and literally just took in what was provided. However hindsight is a wonderful thing and in my darkest hours I wonder if when I buy a mag now I'm just subsidising an advertising operation. Requiescat in Pace Fighting Arts International..**** ads...good articles!!
I'd also love to see the good Master Allison reply on these pages..after all if he has the "Truth" it should become self evident as it unfolds in this thread.
"Oh why is there no monument to porridge in this land
If its good enough to eat, its good enough to stand"
When I was in CKD, I often heard Choi trying to get instructors in other countries to purchase thousands of copies to sell to their students.
Originally Posted by jonnie11
As if they weren't paying enough to be in CKD, and enough for their students also, but he also tried guilting them into purchasing more than they'd ever need, just to promote himself.
" I don't know anything about martial arts, I don't even remember how I found this forum but after reading this post I had to register. That is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Had me in stitches. Good stuff.
You're in good company. Those in CKD don't know anything about Martial Arts either. It's a health class with aerobics.
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Reason: forgot my smiley.
Just left CKD after 3 months, now doing BJJ and Muay Thai : )
My young daughter takes TKD and is half way there to her black belt and is very good. All of a sudden the owner was approached by CKD and now he is changing his place over to CKD from TKD and i'm appauled. I just went to a chicago seminar where choi was at and it was a joke all of it. For the past 2 weeks ive studied,went to the library,looked up everything on the internet about this CKD and I found nothing positive about this and if this owner does change this around I will be pulling my young daughter out of his school.Its a joke a cult like program,ITS FOR THE OLD OR FOR A HEALTH CLUB PROGRAM TO TEACH THERE.. This man says its easier on the joints and promotes health well I bought his book and ive read it now a few times and I can critique several things in this book that are very harmful on your joints. Ive been into fitness for over 25yrs and I know nutrition I know thebody and this master choi is wrong.I just cant believe when someone gets thrown money there way that the first thing they do is takle it and not worry about the students. Plus my wife and I were attacked by the owner in a verbal way and I thought masters are supposed to show respect and go by the tenents on there wall in class.God forbid if I have a question to ask the owner without him flying off the wall. he's a very bad business man and what bothers me is that he is good at TKD and teaching of that and is throwing his career away for this crap CKD. Now please i'm not just on a bash session but ive educated myself on this art I made alot of phone cals to other schools and ive come to the conclusion its not for my daughter or people that are really want to do a martial arts .Ive been learning mauy thai from a private instructor and i'll put up my instructor up against any black belt CKD any day in a ring and i'll take my mauy thai guy to win hands down.These moves that CKD do are horrible or some of the hand strikes and especialy the kicks.I'm very disappointed and i'm in a chicago suburb and looking for a different school if indeed this owner switches it over.I was very inpressed with the owner when we joined and he did a fantastic job teaching TKD but now this bull **** CKD no way. I have a signed CKD book from master choi. I paid $100 anyone ant to buy it i'll sell it for what I paid for it. The only bad thing is its signed to my daughter already,lol. I'll also take a trade for it.I'm so unhappy and disapponted. anyone in the chicago are please email me or pm me on this site so I can talk to you. Oh one more thing I had 2 TKD black belts from my daughters school come up to me after it was over and say how cheesy it was and then they.some of the schools did this choreagraph stuff and I said to myself is this maertial arts or a dance club. Plus all the ovr weight people I saw with CKD black belts was just god awful.
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Originally Posted by kwangjochoi
very true. Whats also funny is that the people where so outdated with hair styles and clothing it was like they were from a different part of the united states where nobody kees up with the times.I saw hair do's from the 70-80's. And again I feel very bad to say stuf like this but I am speaking the truth from my heart
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