7/29/2007 8:27am, #11
The other school is a “Kung Fu and Kickboxing" place, where for 190 CDN for 3 months, you have unlimited access to whatever the **** you want to do. Therefore, I could go everyday, and train in Boxing, then Kickboxing, and San Da. In addition, there are special times for sparring and work out etc. They have a nicer gym, cleaner, better equipped, (more pads, bags, rings, weights, room etc.)
- Join Date
- Sep 2006
- Muay Thai, Boxing
It's really not a good idea for you to start training in Sanda, boxing and kickboxing all at the same time. You're learning too many different and often conflicting things all at once.
For e.g. in boxing you'll be asked to bob and weave. In muay thai, you'll be asked not to do that as you could get setup and then get your head pulled down and kneed.
In kickboxing, kicking the legs might not be legal so you do a lot of long range attacks and then try to get out of the way, which forms bad habits. In Sanda, you have to adopt a totally different strategy and stance.
From a purely standup fighting point of view (if you exclude throws) I feel the muay thai system is superior. If you want to takedown and throw, then go train MMA.
This is what I would do if I were you, if the muay thai coach is good (how does his students do in competition?) go there and get the basics first. Takes 1-2 years to be competent if your teacher is good and you train regularly.
Then go learn sanda and learn how to counter side kicks and learn their throws, and evolve your stances etc. to your own style. Or you can just make friends with some senior students there and then trade tips and have friendly sparring sessions to share information and learn from each other.
Finally take boxing to refine your hand skills and punch evasion.
The kickboxing is not “Full contact karate" esque.
It is indeed a more water-downed version of Muay Thai. I also noticed some people using elbows on bags, and knees.
This might be San Da fighters? How different is San Da to Muay Thai besides the takedown element?
In addition, this place is closer and more convenient to go to.
Something you should take note of. If these 2 schools send fighters to compete and they fight each other, it may be politically incorrect of you to switch schools half way (at least it is where I'm from). Just something you might want to consider.
So take your time to think it through, and choose carefully. It might be hard to switch once you start.
A lot of the Muay Thai people fight, and this is true in the other school, but in San Da and boxing.
Take note also of how many fighters are sent from each gym, and how many come up on top. Some gyms send a busload of competitors, winning then becomes meaningless because they have so many fighters and they go hard on people from other gyms but take it easy between themselves.
If the teacher has a good fight record, good. But it doesn't mean he'll automatically become a good teacher. The results of his students is the best measure.
You didn't mention the culture of the gym or the personality of the instructor and students, but I've found that these are major things I would consider when picking a gym.
The main coach there said they compete in almost every type of full contact fighting, because they are so varied.
Trust, but verify.
7/30/2007 9:48pm, #12Originally Posted by PPlate
If you saw someone fight sanda like that it was probably someone from a differnet style trying to fight sanda rules, or a tae kwon do guy or something.
7/30/2007 9:54pm, #13
I hear that sanda fighters do sticky hands and have outtie belly buttons
7/30/2007 10:11pm, #14Originally Posted by KidSpatula
Bah, we're just so misunderstood... :-/
7/30/2007 10:15pm, #15
momentary thread derail: Is your wife still fighting? If she's ever looking for a match around 120-125 shoot me a message as that's my current fight weight :)
7/30/2007 11:04pm, #16
Originally Posted by Arbiter
- Join Date
- Sep 2006
- Muay Thai, Boxing
King of Sanda, Liu Hailong's fight video:
His feet seem to line up in a straight line, especially when he wants to side kick.
Do you have different stances you use for different situations?
7/30/2007 11:41pm, #17
she may be fighting next month at cung le's born-to-fight event in san jose. we're sending a few fighters out to compete in that. tara was planning to go just to help marvin corner but now she figures she might as well fight if she's going out there , but she hasnt fought since last year. she's gonna train for it and see if she's ready in time. since its tournament style she doenst have to worry about bailing on a match up, so she's just gonna see how it goes.
we're both too busy to compete much right now but would like to. maybe we could hook up a match between you too late summer or this fall. i'll run it by her and get a feel for whether she thinks she could do it or not. the real challenge is trying to carve out some training time with work, the baby, etc etc.
are you still staying active and fighting lately?
7/30/2007 11:53pm, #18Originally Posted by Arbiter
I'm still fairly active. I had my two fights at the beginning of the year and then I fought two more matches in the TBA tournament last month. I've also got a fight here in Atlanta coming up late August and one of the trainers at Knuckle Up wants to take me to Florida for something (possibly some IKF or WAKO tournament, not really sure) and people are trying to set me up with fights all the time.
7/31/2007 12:20am, #19Originally Posted by PPlate
Originally Posted by PPlate
7/31/2007 12:48am, #20
*post deleted to save some whiney pussys from having to go off topic*
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