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  1. lk2230 is offline

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    7/30/2007 5:05am

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    Most Most Important Fighting Range For Real Fight

    Definition of ranges:

    1)Boxing
    2) Kickboxing
    3)Standup Wrestling (i.e. throws, takedowns, controlling positions, etc.),
    4)Groundfighting (i.e. all the styles involving submissions, AND the ground part of wrestling)

    Most important to be good at fight for real self defense/ winning bar fights, drunken assholes attacking you fights, etc.

    CHOOSE 2!

    Mine: A) Boxing B) Standup wrestling

    NOTE: This question is not about MMA or the combat sports (and I am NOT sme TMA who looks down on that stuff, I have trained boxing, kickboxing, submission wrestling, and especially San Da)

    Please be objective.

    I'm ending this post, and then re-posting with my opinion
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    7/30/2007 5:20am

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    no moar!
    Gay thred, ban plz.
  3. lk2230 is offline

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    7/30/2007 5:20am

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    I chose boxing and standup wrestling.

    Reasoning:

    BOXING: It just seems like such a natural instinct for people to fight with their hands. Even some pure BJJ guys when they get drunk throw a punch or two. So this means, that of the people you are likely to face in a real fight: a) they are most likely to throw a punch, and b) boxing is such a widespread sport that you are more likely to encounter a skilled puncher than, say, a skilled BJJ guy.
    Another reason is that in real fighting situations, you may not be in an open area. You may be in a packed club, for instance. A punch is something you can throw easily in this situation. Plus, it also means you will have a good instinct for head movement in the restricted environment. Also, punches don't take much room. Plus, you don't have to worry about the dangers of the ground (i.e. bad terrain such as glass or whatever). And you are on your feet, ready to run away if necessary.

    STANDUP WRESTLING: This, again, seems to be the most instinctual way that people brawl. Even boxers when they go at it end up in close. Standup wrestling allows you a lot of control, even in small, restricted environments. Even if you don't take the bastard down, you can control him. Also, can set up strikes well. And if you do take the guy down without going down yourself, you can just beat his ass.
    Another reason, similar to boxing, is the higher likelihood that you will encounter a skilled wrestler than a skilled kicker or submission expert. Many reasons, such as high school wrestling, plus the for-fun wrestling everyone does with their friends. Also, again, if you can stay on your feet, you can run away.

    This is my opinion. Keep in mind this is coming from someone who has trained submissions and kickboxing. I am actually disproportionately bad at standup wrestling (i.e. better then 90% of people, but not as good as I should be considering my training). I am a little better, proportionately, on the ground. AND, my main background is kickboxing. Of course, this means I know how to box. And since my main kickboxing background is San Da/San Shou, I als have experience with standup wrestling.

    This is my attempt to be objective.

    I would love to hear from y'all. Keep in mind this is not meant to start a flame war, and not a style vs. style war. I'm not talking about the ring (octagon, etc.). Let's not get personal.

    So, please respond:

    For the way actual fights happen:

    CHOOSE TWO (TWO!)

    1) Boxing
    2) Kickboxing (meaning emphasizing the kick portion, & incl. all k-boxing styles)
    3) Stand-up Wrestling
    4) Groundfighting (meaning submissions primarily, but also the "position-control" idea

    RESPOND!

    If this doesn't work I'll make it a poll.
    Thanks!
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    Posted On:
    7/30/2007 5:24am

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    stop making gay postz!

    stop it!
    stop it!
    stop ittttttttttttttttt!!!eleven!!!1!
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    I trite too understand. Wanna do banal?
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    banal sounds goot.

    IK2230 is teh gey! LOLs!!!eleven!!!1
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    The best range? IMO it would be several hundred feet below the ocean surface, launching an ICBM to a target a few thousand miles away.
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    Posted On:
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    The best range:

    Tactical nuke,

    from orbit,

    then salt the earth where lk2230 posted from so it may never support ignorant life again.
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    Others will be happy to do it for you. :evil6:

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    IK2230, plz castrate yourself.


    Fundraising thread for Ik2230's castration plz.
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    Posted On:
    7/30/2007 6:46am


     Style: Muay Thai, CSW

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    right now, a good range would be a longer backscratcher... i mean, i'm pretty flexible reaching my back but i just can't get that good scratch in sometimes.
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