Thread: punching from the heel
12/20/2007 5:44pm, #41
However, most important are these:
Last edited by UpaLumpa; 12/20/2007 5:47pm at .
12/20/2007 5:49pm, #42Originally Posted by hl1978
Those are pictures of a calf.
Why are the lifts irrelevant, because they only go in a vertical plane? The same posture works in a forwards motion as well.
did you watch the video? Your post was way to quick after mine to have done so.
12/20/2007 5:56pm, #43
Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
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One of the reasons I brought it up is due to lack of familiarity with IMA training methods on bullshido.
12/20/2007 6:00pm, #44
What video are you talking about?
There is a lifting seminar and a removed from youtube video which I assume is Rampage-Liddell given the context.
12/20/2007 6:10pm, #45
Upa may be a grappler, but he's dead on. Oh and that is a good video. I like his take on squatting - I think it's still in one of the PT stickies.
Dude - Let's start small. Can you admit that lifting a large weight vertically may involve slightly different mechanics than effectively generating force horizontally?
Although to be honest this would probably help your shoryuken.You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.
12/20/2007 6:14pm, #46
I've spent enough time punching inanimate objects and being punched by animate ones to recognize stupid. A short hook maybe, but can you even throw a cross on your heel? No.
I'm going to go reverse punch a baby cow.
12/20/2007 7:15pm, #47
Did someone just necro their own thread?
You've got one post to show convincing application on a resisting opponent.
12/20/2007 7:23pm, #48
****, didn't notice that. I really need to do some actual work besides trying to get this trollshido'ed.
I really like the calf and quad pics though.
12/20/2007 7:37pm, #49Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
This isn't the sort of argument I like to get involved with, but I'm at home with a splint on my pinky, a beer in my hand and nothing better to do...
A planted heel can work okay for uppercuts and shovel hooks (i.e. short range lifting strikes), but sucks for crosses and hooks (horizontal plane of motion = spin mechanics, not lift mechanics). The only exception I've found is that a planted (back) heel version of the "straight" can work well when an opponent charges forward recklessly into a very well supported fist, a situation one doesn't encounter often when fighting those who've trained.“Most people do not do, but take refuge in theory and talk, thinking that they will become good in this way” -- Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, II.4
12/20/2007 8:59pm, #50
Even uppercuts I was taught you're going to want to put your calves into it. While I've no real business in this subforum, nor is that anecdote particularly useful I recall Tyson throwing his uppercuts that way too.
There certainly are situations where any variation might work. That doesn't make it a general issue.