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    Basically, the problem lies with CMAs that claim SD that only practice structure. That is what most of you have encountered.
    .... EXACTLY.... common problem with eastern MA's BS people into thinking they be learning the* r3al d3al* haveing good shape with no function is like having the most hotted up car with no engine.... is it still a car?

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    Advice from Phrost :-

    "f you use FireFox, there is an extension that lets you download videos onto your system in FLV format from the major video hosts.

    From there, you could upload them into our gallery (www.bullshido.net/gallery) into a CMA-specific section for future use and embed them with the MEDIA tags should a video link become broken.

    Just like to make sure we don't lose information due to the fickleness of the Internet, and I generally hate relying on other people/sites/etc for things that could be useful or important down the road."

    I tried the VideoDownloader plugin and couldn't get it to work. I don't have a lot of time. Can every CMAist reading this please try every method they know to download the videos in this thread and get them fully recoverable on their local machine. We need to have them hosted on Bullshido so this stuff can be easily referenced next time some noob says 'HAY I USED TO BE A NINJA AND WATCHED A BUNCH OF UFCS, NOW I DUN 3 LESSONS OF JOO JITSOO I RECKIN THAT KUNG FOO **** DOESN'T SPAR'
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    Here are the complete set of those (german?) Wing Tsun guys sparring

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdIw-b1kcrk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UopVBH3yFPg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRh7Z7oBOT0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAHlKXdGcew

    The basic stance and guard is correct (though the front on stance is avoided in these clips).

    Kicking and kick defences are pretty much spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physics_Nazi
    Here are the complete set of those (german?) Wing Tsun guys sparring... The basic stance and guard is correct (though the front on stance is avoided in these clips). Kicking and kick defences are pretty much spot on.
    I guess you're Nimlik?

    Whoever named that "good WT" at Youtube was probably joking.
    The "non-WT" guy is so piss-poor that any not wheelchair-bound walking stick-armed granny could chase him around the gym... And I use quotation marks for the "non-WT" guy because one option that comes to my mind is that the person is the "WT" person's student or something...

    There is no kick defense in those clips, because the are no serious kicking attacks IMO.

    There is no follow up with attacks - lack of basic WT fight approach.
    For example when he makes the "non-WT" guy fall with counterkicking, he stops and waits instead of going after the fallen person.

    If it's not clear from what I've written up 'till now, I hate these clips and think they shouldn't have been posted in the first place.

    There you go.
    Now I feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonuzaba
    According to the PRC Army there is no thing like Tibet, so yes, any tibetan MA is Chinese...
    I know yer just trying to be funny but your skirt is showing.....

    If the PRC says there is nothing like Tibet then why do they put "Tibet" on all their maps, feature "Tibetan" singing and dancing on their new years program every year and so on. Actually, Cullion had it right. The PRC is most adamant about the "Chineseness" of Tibet.
    Fighting evil and upholding justice in blue silk pajamas baby!
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    Fighting evil and upholding justice in blue silk pajamas baby!
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=UGaYD_wcaIg

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=6Uepo9ahg-M

    Bah!!! Puny Humans.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonuzaba
    If it's not clear from what I've written up 'till now, I hate these clips and think they shouldn't have been posted in the first place.

    There you go.
    Now I feel better.

    I can't vouch for the skill of the attacker but I think the point is to show technique in a non compliant setting? Looked ok to me, but then I'm not a Tsunner...

    If you can find better non-compliant ones then post them!

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    Mr Mantis, with all due respect, stop shitting up the thread with clips from cheesy kf flicks and post some sparring.
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    MartialArtN00b, neither of those first two videos you posted were of sparring.

    Some really nice vids there. Special thanks to Cullion for producing so many links. I don't suppose you can produce any better _ing _un video, Tonuzaba? That would be appreciated too. Someone mentioned throwdown video... the more quality CMA sparring that can be brought together here, the better.

    There's no need to get to the level of judoinfo, awesome though that would be, but think what a resource articles on some of the CMAs could be if they took the reader from the principles of the art through a handful of important techniques and finished by showing them being used in good hard sparring. Tai Chi's pretty much got all the supporting video you'd need for such an article, and I'm sure many other arts will be following suit shortly.

    Everyone here would love the CMAs to be rid of the mystic bullshit and form-only schools, and the more that can be done to display them as pragmatic fighting arts, the better.

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    I have no problem at all with people who just want to do acrobatic forms for the exercise, if that's all they claim to be doing.
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