Where's all the Full-contact Kung-fu???

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 7/27/2007 9:25pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kTy06sqPOA
Here is another from the same group.

**Lebell** · Posted On: 9/25/2007 10:03am

Originally Posted by Sophist

I'm not a CMA guy. Sorry. I don't know a lot about the kung fu styles, and I'm curious.

I have this little problem when I venture into this area, and it's that I don't know what the different styles do or what they look like when doing it. I know what judo looks like against other judo guys, and what it looks like in a more mixed environment, and the same goes for BJJ or boxing or muay thai, even if I don't appreciate all the subtleties in the striking arts. I don't know what differentiates someone fighting with Baji or Xing Yi or any of the other arts. Part of this is of course because of the oft-mentioned rarity of good schools, but I can't help feeling that those of you who're competent fighters might want to show us what your stuff looks like, done right.

Would it be possible perhaps to have some sort of drive to accumulate video of CMA sparring so that those of us who don't know what an art looks like have some sort of reference? Maybe with some sort of blurb talking us through key points that highlight strategies and techniques characteristic of the art or arts in question? I think it would be enlightening both for those of us who don't have former CMA experience and for those who're coming from a CMA school that doesn't train as well as it might. It would be particularly useful as it's harder to find good fight video kicking around the 'Net with the Chinese arts than it is with some other arts.

ok, as for the rest of the thread: tl;dr.

When i started out CLF we did a huge part of fullcontact, also conditioning arms and shins at eachother.
Think standing with a buddy slamming your arms against the other guys arms for 15 minutes straight, kicks to the legs, other guy blocks.

We did sparring full contact with nothing more then a cup and mouthguard, crazy when i think back of it, but really educational.

Nowadays it doesnt happen that much anymore because so many people are affraid of some pain, black eyes, or *gasp*, a broken nose!

The way ive been taught kungfu wasnt pussystyle or larping or waving your hands through the air.
For some reason its much more this way nowadays and it annoys me, you see people perform the silliest crap and they think they are being effective while i know that for real thats not a realistic/effective approach.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 9/27/2007 11:45pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap9xqyRzcK4

New video

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 9/27/2007 11:49pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufrkHTUREN8

Not the greatest but I love when people say dumb **** then get owned.

Listen for the LOL"Finish Him" (hence the term Ugly American) and watch what happens.

**Jack Rusher** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 12:50pm

It's called "grappling." Here are a couple of heats from the 2007 China National Shuai Jiao Championships:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihn68q2fE4M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8r2C5EvEc0

Note the use of root (or, as we call it here, "base"), sensitivity, and uprooting ("off-balancing?"). I more often see the main IMA principles in shuai jiao than taiji, sadly...

**LowwerWay** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 6:38pm

Here's a tip: there is no anti-grapple in kung fu. That's only a term that would be used by those with incomplete training. When will the kung fu people get past the taboo of cross training? I'll bet the founding fathers of any given style were advocates of learning as much as they could. :XXbuzzsaw

Btw, thanks for posting that clip.

**Jack Rusher** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 6:40pm

Originally Posted by LowwerWay

Here's a tip: there is no anti-grapple in kung fu.

So, you didn't get the joke?

**Zendetta** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 7:56pm

Alright, now who set it to "Papa was a Rolling Stone"?

'Cuz that was some funky kung fu.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 11:47pm

Originally Posted by LowwerWay

Here's a tip: there is no anti-grapple in kung fu. That's only a term that would be used by those with incomplete training. When will the kung fu people get past the taboo of cross training? I'll bet the founding fathers of any given style were advocates of learning as much as they could. :XXbuzzsaw

Btw, thanks for posting that clip.

Please check post history so you get the jokes.

Notice he says it is "grappling?"

Fail.