Where's all the Full-contact Kung-fu???

**Sophist** · Posted On: 2/06/2007 11:55am

I'm not a CMA guy. Sorry. I don't know a lot about the kung fu styles, and I'm curious.

I have this little problem when I venture into this area, and it's that I don't know what the different styles do or what they look like when doing it. I know what judo looks like against other judo guys, and what it looks like in a more mixed environment, and the same goes for BJJ or boxing or muay thai, even if I don't appreciate all the subtleties in the striking arts. I don't know what differentiates someone fighting with Baji or Xing Yi or any of the other arts. Part of this is of course because of the oft-mentioned rarity of good schools, but I can't help feeling that those of you who're competent fighters might want to show us what your stuff looks like, done right.

Would it be possible perhaps to have some sort of drive to accumulate video of CMA sparring so that those of us who don't know what an art looks like have some sort of reference? Maybe with some sort of blurb talking us through key points that highlight strategies and techniques characteristic of the art or arts in question? I think it would be enlightening both for those of us who don't have former CMA experience and for those who're coming from a CMA school that doesn't train as well as it might. It would be particularly useful as it's harder to find good fight video kicking around the 'Net with the Chinese arts than it is with some other arts.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 2/06/2007 1:01pm

Here, once again, just to get the ball rolling, are clips of people from my club using Tai Chi in San Shou competitions, interspersed with some of the stylised versions of the moves in the hand form.

http://www.oxfordwudang.com/video_footage.0.html

The ones entitled 'brush knee' and 'lotus sweep' are probably the most interesting.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 2/06/2007 1:08pm

Neil Rosiak teaches the same flavour of Tai Chi in London. He used to have some other awesome clips on his site, but they went away over a year ago.

If anybody here knows him, it would be great to have links.

He taught this http://www.samiberik.com/hunsite.html MMA fighter Tai Chi, and he used it to win San Shou matches before he went into MMA. He also has a background in Wing Chun and more recently started training BJJ. You can see the Tai Chi part of his training most easily in his 'training' video.

**pauli** · Posted On: 2/06/2007 1:11pm

i read the first post, and was about to ask for... exactly what you posted, cullion. techniques shown in both theory and practice.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 2/06/2007 1:16pm

IIRC, RM also posted a clip of him winning a Shuai Chiao match with Tai Chi a while back. He should prolly post that here.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 2/06/2007 1:17pm

HAY GUYS IT SHOR WUD BE T3h FUNNY IF THE ONLY PEOPLE IN THE CMA FORUM WHO COULD POST CLIPS OF THEIR STYLE WINNING FIGHTS WERE TAI CHI GUYS LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 2/06/2007 1:29pm

Thanks cullion.

Here is what Omar posted earlier take notice of the shoulder check:

These are drills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aip9Y7YK-5c

Now watch you will see a few appear here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_642acVEa1E

**Bang!** · Posted On: 2/06/2007 1:53pm

Cullion, nice one.

I like the idea of trying to set up more of a general reference section for examples of techniques and principles. I will try to get some videos up doing that. As mentioned, though, I do have a video of an old match against a shuai jiao guy. Be nice, I'd only been practicing throwing for a few months.

http://www.google.com/videoplay\?doc...97892170796596

****, how do you embed video again?