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  1. Ecks is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake

    You know as well as I do race is a can of worms. We got people saying boy isn't offensive and that it may be part of his vernacular. Fine.
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    What about "house boy", is that part of an older person's vernacular too?
    I'm aware this is YMAS, so I suppose I shouldn't be taking this seriously, but I thought I'd might clear this up a bit. You're misinterpreting my post (or perhaps I'm just misinterpreting you guys). I am by no means saying that using "boy" is a proper way to address anyone, and I AM acknowledging it was used as a racial slur. What I meant in my original post is that JFS could easily make the argument against it, and the argument would hold up, should anything more arise out of the situation. However, his idiocy in using the N-word pretty much fucks him over.

    And I missed the "house boy" comment, which I will say is quite racist, my apologies for not watching more carefully.
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    Nah, he never said it on the vid. He used the phrase "sell out house boy" as the subtitle of his thread challenging Asia 'over there'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecks
    I'm aware this is YMAS, so I suppose I shouldn't be taking this seriously, but I thought I'd might clear this up a bit. You're misinterpreting my post (or perhaps I'm just misinterpreting you guys). I am by no means saying that using "boy" is a proper way to address anyone, and I AM acknowledging it was used as a racial slur. What I meant in my original post is that JFS could easily make the argument against it, and the argument would hold up, should anything more arise out of the situation. However, his idiocy in using the N-word pretty much fucks him over.

    And I missed the "house boy" comment, which I will say is quite racist, my apologies for not watching more carefully.
    Add still and I see where you are coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze
    Nah, he never said it on the vid. He used the phrase "sell out house boy" as the subtitle of his thread challenging Asia 'over there'.
    Which is why he can't say it is part of his vernacular. He purposely uses it to refer to anyone he finds out is black.

    Ecks I wasn't saying you felt that way.
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    Just to throw it out there, I've never heard the term 'boy' or 'house boy' before reading this thread. I didn't even know it was a racial slur until someone mentioned it.
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    ^ At IIF: Yea I know, I just have an obsessive compulsive disorder when it comes to stuff like this. Call it a character flaw. -.-
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    Personally, I think even without knowing that we can safely state that JFS was a fucking lunatic, and I'd add that whether he was racist on top of it would change very little of my opinion on the man I saw in that video.

    I don't mind assuming he's a racist without knowing that either. He did call Anna a **** and a skank before she said anything.
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    ^ At IIF: Yea I know, I just have an obsessive compulsive disorder when it comes to stuff like this. Call it a character flaw. -.-
    I'm monitoring all the threads so I'm in the same boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asriel
    Just to throw it out there, I've never heard the term 'boy' or 'house boy' before reading this thread. I didn't even know it was a racial slur until someone mentioned it.
    It really depends on your age. JFS is way to old not to know.

    Too quite a few blacks it is almost as deragatory as ******. I'm not saying universally but, if you used it, some blacks have been talking about you behind your back.


    I lived in Salt Lake and worked with a really nice woman who used boy. I explained to her that some blacks find the word very offensive. She didn't believe me.

    We had a shoe shiner (insert joke) who was black come through our line. I told her to ask him what he thought. He was about mid to late 50's. She asked and he said I'd slap you in your mouth. I'm not your slave and I'm a man no one talks to me that way.

    Again age does play a factor as well as race.
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    I'm 29 and I definitely think that if you call a black dude "boy" you're about to be fighting. Although it's as much about the tone and context as the word itself.

    Maybe it's because I've lived in the South my whole life, racism here is very open and everyone knows the rules.
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