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  1. kismasher is offline

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    Os acted in a very Aiki manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kismasher
    Os acted in a very Aiki manner.
    With the jump kick, was he entering and harmonising, or keeping one point?
  3. Fitz is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuiltySpark
    Kicking someones ass can be easy. destroying someones character and respect is much harder, there is only one person that can destroy their own character and respect. JFS did an excellent job of doing that to himself.
    This incident will haunt him for the rest of his life and career.

    Anytime anyone runs a search for his name online this incident will come up near the top of the search. Potential employers, students, associates will all see what he said and did.

    Anytime he attempts to teach a seminar the organizers will find it and likely reconsider taking part in it.

    And who knows what kind of effect it will have upon his current associates, who upon seeing this and knowing it will never go away may feel it necessary to reconsider their dealings with him.

    And the thing is, this won't go away. All types of attempt to spin or justify what took place can be made but anyone interested can find the video and given the nature of information spread even if attempts are made to pull the footage in one place it will simply sprout up elsewhere.
  4. kismasher is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lujke
    With the jump kick, was he entering and harmonising, or keeping one point?
    In high level aikido, atemi is often used a distration or kuzushi if you will. The kick enabled OS to effectively blend with JFS and disturb his hara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_ketchens
    He resorted to racism to get a rise out of somebody. That's about as infantile as you can get. I don't see any justification for it all. Also, springer started with the N-bomb way before Oz said anything of the sort. Using racial slurs to specifically harrass someone = racist prick.
    As has been pointed out elsewhere, JFS was also fond of referring to, and calling Os "Boy", which I'm reliably informed is also a racist epithet in the context of redneck to black dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdog
    I already posted this in another thread, but it bears repeating -

    I could see shouting the n word back at a black guy who just called you it in the heat of the moment. It's not justified, but it's something you might do out of anger without being a racist.

    Tauntingly singsong-ing "****** boy", on the other hand... I can't think of any situation where you'd do that unless you were a horrible racist to begin with.
    Like I said earlier we don't know what was said in those missing seconds. I've seen blacks use the word right back after being called ******.
  7. Ecks is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by sochin101
    As has been pointed out elsewhere, JFS was also fond of referring to, and calling Os "Boy", which I'm reliably informed is also a racist epithet in the context of redneck to black dude.
    That's a little iffy though, as he could easily claim that as being a mere part of his vernacular. As he is older than them, using "boy" as a pronoun is pretty justified, racial implications aside.

    Thankfully, John still had the absolute lack of foresight to drop the N bomb, so should anything arise out of this to cause legal ramifications, the proof is right in the video.
  8. Lu Tze is offline

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    What about "house boy", is that part of an older person's vernacular too?
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    Christ, Baldy McRacist was a fucking dick-licker. He needs to be hadukened through a wall.
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    I see Udel, Omar's apologist is suddenly gone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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