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  1. UpaLumpa is offline
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    Ground grappling starting back to back is retarded. [a tangent thread from MABS]

    back to back is retarded
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    back to back is retarded
    thank you for your insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    back to back is retarded
    Another intelligent well thought out comment from Umpa Lumpa. Don't you have some songs to sing?

    Spezza, as I and McJon pointed out, you are flat out wrong regarding the Judo tournament. I find it interesting to see how many people are so ready to jump on something other than BJJ/MT and make FLAT OUT FALSE claims, which I am sure they KNOW TO BE FALSE, just to make it look bad. If anything, THAT'S bullshido.
  4. UpaLumpa is offline
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    What more is needed for such a stupid fucking training practice?
    And it is Upa, not Umpa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    back to back is retarded
    No more retarded than any session starting in an "equal" position. Whether on the ground or standing, I have found that none of my real-life conflicts (only two full-out fights since I have been here) have started off on even ground. It is training, and nothing more.
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    Starting on your knees is as bad as back to back in my opinion. Neither bears any resemblance to what you might encounter in the street, in the ring or even a grappling match.
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    After takedowns and scrambling through positions I've often found myself face to face on knees and chosen to attack from there rather than reengage standing (particularly if my opponent is better on their feet). I've never ended up sitting se-zan back to back.

    Also, at least form knees facing you can work some basic pummeling and see how to break an opponents base/posture. This has application to other aspects of grappling (e.g. guard and butterfly guard) so it is a useful pedagogical tool unto itself.
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    It also conserves mat space which is a precious commodity in larger classes where everyone wants to grapple.
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    So would starting back-to-back.
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    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

    My Bullshido fan club threads:
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    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
    Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
    Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a ***** or just cruising for some
    I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
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    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
    Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
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    Tom Kagan is a fat balding white guy.
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