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  1. ojgsxr6 is offline

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    Depression during training hiatus

    For some reason I get depressed when I go too long without training. Is this normal, could I be normally depressed and the training is keeping me normal.
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    Seriously though, I get that too. For me training is such a huge part of my life I don't know what to do with myself on "off days." I think Rickson said it best "I find it very hard to understand myself without jiu jitsu." I've just accepted it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    For some reason I get depressed when I go too long without training. Is this normal,
    Exercise does cause certain chemicals to be spewed into the bloodstream. I think one of them is related to feelings of well being. I've heard anecdotes of marathoners and ultra marathoners who will feel down when they skip training and I attribute it to their bodies scaling back the production of these chemicals leading to kind of a withdrawl.

    could I be normally depressed and the training is keeping me normal.
    Possibly. Don't screw around with this; go to a mental health professional.

    I have obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). I was untreated for years. One of the things that helped was regular exercise - but regular for me was 6-7 days a week.

    Eventually, that wasn't enough. Also, I would have moderate outbreaks during periods when I was injured and could not train.

    After waaaaaaaaay too long I got help. I still train 6 days a week, but I do it for myself and to meet my own goals - not because I HAVE to.

    Don't screw with this. Talk to someone.

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    Have been off for about a month with a hand injury. Have been going to the pub when I normally train, getting fat as **** and going completely spare. In theory, getting laid would probably help, but the fat drunkenness isn't exactly conducive to it...

    I have no helpful advice whatsoever, as you can probably tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    For some reason I get depressed when I go too long without training. Is this normal, could I be normally depressed and the training is keeping me normal.
    If it's serious enough for you to ask about it, then it could be a problem. The fact that training makes you feel good is great, but I think your second sentence hints that simply missing training might not be the whole problem.

    Things you want to think about-
    Are you taking any supplements or medications when you train that you aren't when you don't, or that you recently stopped?

    Have you been to your physician lately? You probably want to get your hormone levels, blood sugar, etc. tested if they aren't regularly.

    Do you have any family history of depression, or alchoholism/substance abuse? If you do, you could be at risk.

    It could be the simple lack of endorphins from training as jusz said, but even if this is the case the fact that you feel the difference so acutely is something to watch out for.
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    I suffer from depression (medicated too) and if I don't get some exercise every day I quickly start to turn into a bit of a wreck. It definitely keeps me on an even keel. A good therapist will be able to tell you very quickly if you have a problem or not, garden variety depressives are a dime a dozen these days.
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    It's natural to feel depression when you don't/can't train. You train because you love it, and perhaps you use it as a valve, escape or distraction from everyday crap - I know I do. I've been off training for over 3 months, and it's fucking depressing. It was driving me off the walls, but I've been trying to lift (in a way that doesn't hurt my elbows) to keep my mind from frying.

    Alternative workouts (whenever possible) or other positive activities should help deal with feelings of depression (whenever those feelings are manageable.) For anything more severe, you should consult a doctor - if you feel depression is getting out of hand. That crap is real (I had a serious case of depression back in 2001).

    If it worries you a lot, you should consult your doctor, a counselor, a close friend (someone you can trust), perhaps your martial arts instructor (if you have a good, close relationship with him), family, or even a priest or minister (many ministers have experience helping with people with depression and other issues.)
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    3-4 days without lifting puts me in a bad mood. Of course dealing with my Sergeant has the same effect.
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    Perfectly natural feeling. What you need to watch out for is waking up with your wife/gf in an armbar on night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkartigue
    What you need to watch out for is waking up with your wife/gf in an armbar on night.
    Ok. Confession time.

    After a real hard training session, who else does this? When I'm falling asleep, my mind will replay the sparring I did. Sometimes, my arm or leg will twitch as though I'm punching or kicking.

    My wife has gotten used to this and, since I sleep on my back its no big deal. I'm "punching" or "kicking" towards the ceiling.

    So one night, as I was falling asleep, I dreamt the guy charged me. So I sidestepped. Now, I'm not sure how I sidestepped while laying flat on my back and not being able to push off the floor, but I almost bumped my wife out of bed.

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