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  1. dweidman is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/03/2007 1:31pm


     Style: Bujinkan

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    To Gi or not to Gi, that is the question

    This last weekend, someone mentioned that it is better to learn groundfighting with a gi initially. The reason, however, was interesting: it was because you use less strength, power, and speed when you have a gi on -- and because a Gi slows things down...

    Is this the case? Can someone confirm this?

    I can't imagine that it is the case ... but I have been wrong before.

    My reasons for no gi -- is that any techs that work without a gi should work with a gi as well - but not the other way.

    Thanks,

    -Daniel
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  2. artard is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/03/2007 1:34pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    gi is definitely slower and less explosive just watch any grappling tournament or just youtube videos of people rolling and it should be pretty evident. at my school you start with 100% gi grappling/techniques at the beginning and only start to do no gi once you have the fundamentals down and can go to the more advanced classes. I'm a beginner so can't really objectively comment on if this method is the best way but it makes sense to me. however, I'm more interested in competitive jiu jitsu than mma.
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  3. fedeykin is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/03/2007 1:54pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    the gi opens up a wide range of offensive and defense techniques that are not possible fighting without a gi. this forces you to use a higher level of technique.

    the gi changes the clinch/takedown game completely, making it much harder to take someone down cause they can just hold onto you.

    all in all tho, training with gi will improve your no-gi game.
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    Posted On:
    7/03/2007 2:32pm

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    gi helps develop position since posture is more important the easier it is for someone to hold on to you

    no-gi help develop submissions since not having any 'handles' forces you to pinch your knees for armbars, be in tight with your opponent etc.
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    Posted On:
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    How about you just fucking train and learn the answer firsthand within two sessions?
    Captain's Log: Just a little update for all my TRUE and HONEST friends out there:

    1) I am STRAIGHT! I am STRAIGHT! Get it through your thick skulls, numbskulls!

    2) My name is not Ian Brandon Something.

    3) Kacey is coming with me now. I have stolen her from the other Christian Weston Chandler.

    REMINDER: I am still the one and only true creator of sonichu and rosechu electric hedgehog pokemon
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Do both.
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  7. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    Do both.
    What he said.
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