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  1. Mas is offline
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    6/23/2007 7:24pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    How Do: No gi Judo

    So here's the deal:

    I'm the new president of my Judo club, and I have a lofty goal: No gi Judo. It would bring more people to the club as it has a greater emphasis on practicality.

    Only problem is, none of the instructors have trained no gi and I lost Karo's number when I left my cell phone in the wash. All of our instructors are quite good, and I'm sure would be willing to at least listen to this notion of learning no gi Judo.

    Is there a way to learn no gi Judo from the ground up? I think it is a worthwhile endeavor, but is it just too hard to do, and is it safe? Has anyone had experiences like this, if so how successful were they?

    I don't know if this is in the right place, if anyone wants to move this to YMAS or anything else go right ahead.

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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'd drop in on www.judoforum.com and ask your questions there if I were you. But basically it's a matter of using over and under hooks in place of gi grips.
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    All of the throws I work are no-gi. Some of them are similar to Judo. I think no-gi Judo is a great idea.
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    Posted On:
    6/23/2007 11:33pm


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    Books

    I'll agree with WG on that it isn't that difficult to transfer over to no-gi throws. You just grab the wrist or leg instead of the gi. In other applications you use an overhook or underhook. There are other ways to hook or wrap your arm around a limb to execute a throw as well.

    Books that I'm familiar with may be helpful:

    Bruce Tegner's Complete Book of Jujitsu
    Several books from Hatmaker and Werner (NHB Fighting Series).
    Books by Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming

    I like Tegner's book in that it has some throws and locks that don't rely on gis mixed in with gi throws. The "No Holds Barred Fighting" series by Hatmaker and Werner are pretty good; all of the throws featured are no-gi. Books by Dr. Yang may be useful in getting additional ideas. Hatmaker and Werner will probably be the most helpful.
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    Posted On:
    6/24/2007 12:50am


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    I'll have to check those out.

    I've always heard no gi is a whole different monster, I suppose there's lots of experimenting to do.

    Thanks

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    Posted On:
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    no gi Judo is easy. Take off the gi and start playing. Experiment and study the techniques. Also instead of calling it no gi Judo label it submission wrestling and have it as a seperate class.

    Sticking to the basics is the best plan.
    Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
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    Posted On:
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    Videos to come but if you pick Karo's tapes.
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    6/24/2007 2:28am


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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega the Merciless
    Videos to come but if you pick Karo's tapes.
    I'm sorry, I don't understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by jkartique
    no gi Judo is easy. Take off the gi and start playing. Experiment and study the techniques. Also instead of calling it no gi Judo label it submission wrestling and have it as a seperate class.

    Sticking to the basics is the best plan.
    I guess I want to keep publicity for the club. If I call it something else I'll have to petition the facility we work at, get new disclaimers etc.

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    Posted On:
    6/24/2007 10:50am


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    Karo's tapes I heard were pretty good, he has a couple instructionals, you could probably just pick up the ones on his no gi throws.

    You saw the clips I posted of Shinya Aoki's takedowns, I'm not sure whether he has any more on his video though. I would think he would have some more stuff, but you could probably ask around and see whether buying that would be useful.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mas
    I'm sorry, I don't understand.



    I guess I want to keep publicity for the club. If I call it something else I'll have to petition the facility we work at, get new disclaimers etc.

    I have video highlights that show how to do no gi judo/sambo throws. Meaning me...I do the throws....you know....like "grab the arm like this......" and I'm the one talking and throwing......somebody else...not a doppleganger..............somebody help me here I can't explain this any other way.
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