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  1. Zhuangzi is offline

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    8/20/2009 10:11am

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    One of you asked what Kosho Ryu Kenpo is. That is what James Mitose called his martial art.

    As for the rest of this thread, I can say that I am training at a Kenpo school in Oregon that teaches a fusion of the Parker and Tracy systems. I have also trained in aikido, karate, jiu jitsu and a little wing chun. The majority of my prior training, however, was in a VERY little-known martial art called won hop loong chuan. In every won hop class, all students (even beginners) were expected to participate in full contact sparring (barring only face shots), which in the system is called "kumite."

    With that said, I can easily state that Kenpo is the most practical and applicable martial art that I have ever studied. I am very happy with the school that I have found here in Oregon and would in no way say that it qualifies as "bullshido." The teachers are all very knowledgable and all teachings are geared toward application in real-world fighting situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhuangzi View Post
    One of you asked what Kosho Ryu Kenpo is. That is what James Mitose called his martial art.

    As for the rest of this thread, I can say that I am training at a Kenpo school in Oregon that teaches a fusion of the Parker and Tracy systems. I have also trained in aikido, karate, jiu jitsu and a little wing chun. The majority of my prior training, however, was in a VERY little-known martial art called won hop loong chuan. In every won hop class, all students (even beginners) were expected to participate in full contact sparring (barring only face shots), which in the system is called "kumite."

    With that said, I can easily state that Kenpo is the most practical and applicable martial art that I have ever studied. I am very happy with the school that I have found here in Oregon and would in no way say that it qualifies as "bullshido." The teachers are all very knowledgable and all teachings are geared toward application in real-world fighting situations.
    More practical than wing chun and aikido? I highly doubt it. Plus everyone knows "kumite" is a name of a tournament, not a fighting session term.
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    Posted On:
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    They're all inferior to Korean Tetsurin Kempo.
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    Posted On:
    9/01/2009 10:34am

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    I believe Tracy Kenpo also teaches another Hung gar set, Tiger and Crane. Its a cool set but not EP Kenpo at all.

    YouTube - Hung Gar Tiger Crane

    This link should work, the video is 80's but not bad. If it fails youtube "Tiger and Crane Shaolin" and it should come up.
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    So what is the final verdict on Tracy Kenpo Vs. American Kenpo?

    Near me I have both schools and both claim to be good and complete in teaching Kenpo.

    Tracy Kenpo has 600 techniques and claims to be a complete system w/ grappling, throws, kicks, locks, etc. EPK claims the same albeit with much less techniques.

    My question is, if I'm going to spend money and learn a system, which one should I pick?
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    Posted On:
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    I honestly don't there is really any substative difference between the Tracy Kenpo and American Kenpo systems. As a kenpo practioner for almost 25 years I've basically found that "kenpo is kenpo" and almost all kenpo systems have the same strengths (few) and weaknesses (many).

    I have a 2nd degree BB in American Kenpo and work out three times a week with a guy who is a 4th in the Tracy system. We show each other techniques from our respective systems, almost always to laugh about how horrible and unrealistic they are. In our frequent contests of who wasted their life learning the most useless ****, we almost always agree it is a tie.

    There are some good things you can learn from kenpo, but they are typically buried under so much bullshit that its not really worth the trouble.

    Still if you are dead set on one of the two schools your decision shouldn't be based on Tracy vs Parker. I think price, class schedule, and the personalities of the students and instructors should factor much more heavily in your decision than which style of kenpo they teach.
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    Thanks Punisher, that was a great answer.
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    Also be aware that during his lifetime Ed Parker redid and redesigned his form of American Kempo multiple times. Tracy's Kenpo would be closest to what Ed Parker was teaching in the early 1960s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Achiever View Post
    I am not a kenpoist, however I am doing some academic research. Have any of you guys/gals heard of Kajukenbo Kosho Ryu Kenpo? Now I know what Kaj is and what Kosho is. Have any of you had experience with this combo or what I am asume is a combo of the two arts?
    "Kajukenbo Kosho Ryu Kenpo" is a system that was founded by Mr. Jaime Basquez (Kajukenbo) and Mr. Paul Yamaguichi (Kosho Ryu). It is a blend of the two arts, although I hear the material is closer to Kajukenbo than Kosho Ryu. I haven't experienced it first hand, the schools around my part of New England are a good drive away.
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    10/04/2009 5:59pm

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    I have studied Tracy's, Parker's and Paul Mills versions of Kenpo and I got useful

    information from all of them,yes, I think they all contain tecniques that would

    never work for most people.

    A good Instructor will help you find concepts of motion in the material that

    work for you rather than focusing on just memorising techniques.

    my Kenpo training has come in handy for me a couple of times and I

    know several professional lawmen who swear by it so I can't go along with

    calling kenpo a useless art,i think practicality in any fighting art has more to do

    with how it's taught and the person applying it.

    Sparring,to me is of utmost importance,you have to work with live moving bodies or

    you get nowhere. Any art is going to have strenghts and weaknesses and none of

    them will make you bulletproof.

    for what it's worth that's my opinion.
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