Vee Arnis Jitsu at the Fighthouse in NYC.... WTF?!!

**AbeVargas** · Posted On: 8/08/2007 9:08am

lacy, you said earlier that the military and police don't train for sport. As far as I know, the Army and many police academies in the U.S. teach ground fighting. Their method of training is the same used by "sport" fighters. In fact, the Army holds tournaments with "sport" rules.

To answer your questions, no, I've never broken someone's arm sparring. Personally I like to tap before my arm breaks.

**lacy378** · Posted On: 8/08/2007 9:07pm

Fiction Pimp, my club is in the RPAC at OSU ( their fitness facility) and mat time is limited due to class and club times. A park is just easier. Let me know.

**TKD Black Belt** · Posted On: 8/08/2007 9:19pm

Originally Posted by AbeVargas

To answer your questions, no, I've never broken someone's arm sparring. Personally I like to tap before my arm breaks.

I coach to LEO and I've seen guys go unconscious on the mat but we're very strict about arms and joint damage. Doesn't do anyone any good to not be able to work for a few weeks. In regular BJJ though I've broken someone's collar bone (yes I felt like a dick about it) I swept him from butterfly guard and had his lowside arm trapped against his body. He just sort of landed 'funny' you know?

In tournaments I've seen lots of injuries. If you don't tap.....

TKD

**FictionPimp** · Posted On: 8/08/2007 10:43pm

I broke a good friend of mines arm while grappling. Although not in an armbar. It was a mishap fall while I was trying to throw him, he landed wrong on his arm and pop, he broke one of the bones in his forearm.

I bought him lots of beer to compensate in the aftermath.

**Ken** · Posted On: 8/10/2007 12:45pm

Beer cures all. :)

**AbeVargas** · Posted On: 8/10/2007 1:54pm

Originally Posted by TKD Black Belt

I coach to LEO and I've seen guys go unconscious on the mat but we're very strict about arms and joint damage. Doesn't do anyone any good to not be able to work for a few weeks. In regular BJJ though I've broken someone's collar bone (yes I felt like a dick about it) I swept him from butterfly guard and had his lowside arm trapped against his body. He just sort of landed 'funny' you know?

In tournaments I've seen lots of injuries. If you don't tap.....

TKD

Different strokes for different folks I guess. I like my bones just the way they are, aligned correctly and all.

**Fantasy Warrior** · Posted On: 8/10/2007 7:41pm

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Can't we keep this on-topic chaps? I thought it was about how some schools of Vee Arnis Jitsu teach unrealistic compliant "self-defense" drills? It was funny when the Vee Arnis Jitsu nutrider started blindly defending his beloved art but alas he has been swamped by some grappling nerd-speak.

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