Thread: We still hate katas/patterns
6/19/2007 9:02am, #1Originally Posted by Soju - Joe
What about the fact that you will never stand in a full front stance with your hands chambered and down blocking or whatever? LIke I said before, even if it works all those aspects to the max, since you won't use whatever you're honing, it's wasting your time.
6/19/2007 10:05am, #2Originally Posted by Soju - Joe
You keep looking at Kata as an exact interpratation of pure figthing technique, while it contains some elements of that it's also doing other stuff.
Kata is not a preplacement for sparring, weight lifting, running or pad work, it's it's own seperate thing.
I am also reluctant to address the street vs ring arguement but Kata also addresses things like reversing a front kick to a back kick or elbowing behind you while you strike forward to deal with anynone coming up from behind.
The infamous chambered fist is also a backward elbow strike to the gut of someone coming at you from behind while you're punching forward with the other hand.
If you want to train things like focus and breathing or whatever by training yourself to use things you won't fight with, then go for it. Just realize that there's better ways, and that you train the way you fight, and you want to minimize this dead training as much as possible.
To me, forms would be acceptable if it was ONE form and if it actually contained moves and footwork and whatever that you would actually use. And it would be best if it was not prearranged. Oh what's this, we already have it, it's called shadowboxing...
In it's current state in most Korean MA, it's an artistic tip of the hat to the past.
6/19/2007 11:34am, #3Originally Posted by EternalRageSEANBABY:
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6/19/2007 11:43am, #4
Why were ER's on topic comments moved?
6/19/2007 12:10pm, #5
because we hate kata, apparently.
6/19/2007 12:18pm, #6
6/19/2007 12:21pm, #7
rofl what the peniswrinkle
6/19/2007 12:29pm, #8Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
Either that or Soju-Joe has friends in high places.
Or Omega is bored.
6/19/2007 12:40pm, #9
There may be a lot of gay kata out there, but dead training has its place. It is, among other things, the backbone of good stickfighting.
6/19/2007 1:20pm, #10Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra