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  1. Sam Browning is online now

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2007 2:38pm

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    Hello Damian:

    On the Accelerated Battlefield Combatives Tape the presenter says: "How we're able to teach them what they felt were ruthless skills in an unreasonably short period of time. We know that Washington is controlled by lobbyists in the media. We were brought before a congressional hearing and shut down."

    He similarly said "this information was buried for the last 10 years, thanks to the liberal press ands their moniker of the murder by numbers system . . ."

    1) Specifically which congressional committee did Chris Pizzo or you appear before? And on what date? (day month, and year) You see I really want to obtain a transcript of this hearing to read it for myself.

    2) Specifically which newspapers called the system "murder by numbers"? Please provide me with the publication name, and the article's author, title of the article, and date of publication.

    3) In a previous article for Black Belt Magazine you are described as being Carl Cestari's "top student". Is this an accurate claim?

    please provide evidence that you were indeed Carl's top student. For example a letter by him making this statement, or a witness or two, other then Chris Pizzo who would support this statement.

    4) Between what dates did you train with Carl, and approximately how many hours of training did you put in with him?

    5) If you and Mr. Pizzo are undergoing litigation please refer me to the court in which the suit has been filed and its docket number. That is the easiest way to confirm that a suit has been filed. Legally when lawyers use the phrase that something is "in litigation" it generally means that a lawsuit has been filed.

    6) I have never been in the military, Please tell me if you have been, and whether you ever taught hand to hand combat while serving.

    7) Was Chris Pizzo, ever special forces qualified?

    Those are my questions for now.
  2. Sam Browning is online now

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianR
    My name is Damian Ross and I feel I have to say something before things get out of hand.

    Considering Mr. Pizzo and I are undergoing litigation, I can't comment on too much right now. Let's put it this way, when I was approached about the distribution of my and Carl's material it was supposed to be handled differently, which never happened. Lesson learned.

    As far as the exaggerated marketing claims, well- that was someone else's deal and as I mentioned before, it's was supposed to be handled differently and that's over now. It lasted a whole 22 months. Now I have to do my best and distance myself from him and his organization.

    Jim, I know you and if you have a problem with me, you can contact me, I can't belive I have to google my name, register for a forum and post a response. I don't have your number anymore or I just would have called you. And that goes for anyone else - I m a public person with a real school and a real business. I'm not impossible to find.

    Rest assured, at the end of the day the people who need to know have 100% full disclosure.

    When I get accused of taking advantage of Carl, I can't let that go. I'm not going to contact my lawyer or any of that nonsense- Jim, if you have a problem, I'l talk to you.

    Thanks Bullshido for allowing me to respond.

    Damian
    Thank you for coming to Bullshido Damian.
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    Posted On:
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    By the way, Mr. Ross. Do I understand correctly that you and Chris Pizzo are engaged in some sort of legal dispute? I don't need details...I'm just trying to understand the situation.

    How much of Pizzo's material do you subscribe to, with respect to self-defense (No need to get into any legal matters...just trying o clarify where your material begins and his ends)?

    Basically, I want to understand the substance of your contribution to materials I have seen distributed.
    And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".

    --Scrolls of Bujutsu: Chapter 5 vs 10-14.
  4. Sam Browning is online now

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2007 3:38pm

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    8) How many hours of training did Chris Pizzo have with Carl, Mr. Ross?

    9) Were you the one who taught Chris Pizzo how to do a hip throw?
  5. 1ofthepack is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2007 11:32pm

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    Mr. Browning i DOUBT your going to get any of these answers from Damian, if you do it will be interesting.

    Now, Damian, I will not give out my # I,ve learned that lesson a long time ago, HOWEVER, if you wish to chat I have no problem with that at all HOWEVER, the only thing it MAY change in my post is that MAYBE you talk to your brother Phil now? Other than that everything is 100% on the money! I work as a cop in the same police station for the past 22 years and will continue to do so for another 4 God willing. I work 3pm-11pm 5 days out of every 7. If you care to meet you can just show up at 11pm and we can discuss this .
    As far as my problem with you? Hmm, let's see.
    You write ALL over the internet that you met Carl in 1989 and have trained since then. LIE.
    in 2002 you were still NOT training with Carl at the kean seminar, there's a 100 guys who attended who can attest to that.
    CARL specifically told you NOT to go into business with the ABC Lt and that he thought the guy was scum! You did it anyway!
    carl spent his LIFE emphasizing THERE ARE NO SECRETS! he was so distraught with you over that. Doesnt that bother you a bit?
    You were in business with Lt ABC for 22 months and made videos with the guy, you gave him a paper black belt , he then went straight to Carl's wife Carol to CUT you out, and now your suing him! cause he made more of a fortune than you did and when he was done he spit you out.
    You retired and lived off of Carl's sweat and BLOOD! You lied to him on numerous occassions.
    You made 10 -20 times what you gave Carl and Carol ,and ABC Lt made a 100 times more than that!
    You had full knowledge of this, the guy screwed you over and NOW you've learned your lesson? It was all your doing, not Carls, Carol's ,yours!
    Let's see Do I have a problem that you screwed over a great guy who was dying of CANCER not to mention one of my best friends on the planet!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS!
    You only think of yourself, never of Carl. Yeah, I know you were putting scraps on the table for him and his wife with Carol's also sick mother in a hospital bed ,in the middle of the living room, while you were eating filet mignon! What a guy!
    Like I said WE can meet any night, no need to call just show up, BUT, do you really think anything you have to say is going to correct ANY one of these "problems" I have.

    That's never happening BUT, feel free..... Jimbo
    Last edited by 1ofthepack; 11/21/2007 8:44am at .
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    Posted On:
    11/16/2007 5:03am


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    samuel, ross can answer these questions, however it would not be a good thing, it fact , it may be somewhat embarassing----once again, i am not here to say damien is not a talented wrestler/grappler. he has no secrets, never served in the military, was involved in typical " i know what you do not" ads, carl never would say he could or we could beat mmas, or we are the best or diseregard grappling[ carl trained in judo at 6 years of age[from olympic coach yoneska to his demise], boxed. full contact shukokai karate and studied sambo [all live arts]---we do not advocate we can beat anyone and everyone [ pizzo/ross] that is a fantasy. bullshido members, do not confuse what we do with those phony ads-----ralph g
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude
    RoninPimp likes his CC dvds. I respect his pov more so than some guy that no one knows from Adam.
    -Just to be clear, I do not have Damien Ross' DVD's. I have 5 or 6 VHS tapes bought in 2002 or 2003 (haven't watched them in ages). I think I got the contact info for them from an old SDF thread. Don't remember for sure who I bought them from but I believe Cestari or one of his guys other than Ross were involved in their reintroduction.

    -I never felt the need to buy Ross' DVD as I didn't think they would provide any new Combatives info for me.

    -Good to see The Wolfpack at Bullshido.
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    Posted On:
    11/21/2007 10:20am


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    Damian,

    I've trained Combatives. Not With mr Cestari, but Geoff Todd (Ralph please don't turn this into a war over Geoff and Carl ok?).

    I've seen the tapes, indeed I did a review for Bullshido on them. The tapes are what is technically known as Utter shite. there were no Combatives moves in them. Indeed I saw a clothes line, something I learned of Hack Saw Jim Duggan when I was a teen watching the WWF/WWE. There were no low line kicks, no entry strikes, no swivel strikes, the mental aspects were missed, and to be honest, the tapes/DVDs were a blight on the face of the planet as throwing them away would be adding to polution.

    Thus please come back and justify these tapes. YOU were involved in them.

    Oh and Mr Cestari's name is associted with these horrid things, thanks to the viral marketing of Lt.X as is Captain America. I mean come on!

    Grow a set and answer the questions.

    Slan leat (that is don't let the door hit you when you leave)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianR
    My name is Damian Ross and I feel I have to say something before things get out of hand.

    Considering Mr. Pizzo and I are undergoing litigation, I can't comment on too much right now. Let's put it this way, when I was approached about the distribution of my and Carl's material it was supposed to be handled differently, which never happened. Lesson learned.

    As far as the exaggerated marketing claims, well- that was someone else's deal and as I mentioned before, it's was supposed to be handled differently and that's over now. It lasted a whole 22 months. Now I have to do my best and distance myself from him and his organization.

    Jim, I know you and if you have a problem with me, you can contact me, I can't belive I have to google my name, register for a forum and post a response. I don't have your number anymore or I just would have called you. And that goes for anyone else - I m a public person with a real school and a real business. I'm not impossible to find.

    Rest assured, at the end of the day the people who need to know have 100% full disclosure.

    When I get accused of taking advantage of Carl, I can't let that go. I'm not going to contact my lawyer or any of that nonsense- Jim, if you have a problem, I'l talk to you.

    Thanks Bullshido for allowing me to respond.

    Damian
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    Posted On:
    11/21/2007 10:38am


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    cestari

    theardri, i am not here to debate anything with todd, he has my home tele #and we have talked several times, i am a guest here discussing the garbage that was being passed off on carl's rep and i am glad you agree, in fact if you write me privately i want to discuss hutton sabre with you--ralph g
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