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  1. TheMightyMcClaw is online now
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    How exactly are you defining full contact then?
    In my understanding, if you can hit as hard as you like, and win the match for knocking your opponent unconcious, it's full contact (ie, boxing). If you get penalized for hitting too hard, and get disqualified for knocking your opponent unconcious, it's semi-contact (ie, karate).
    (by the way, I dig the videos).
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    DAMN, Doninha!!!! You know your Capoeira. Could you recommend any books to someone who'd like to know more? Thanks again for the info.
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    "The little capoeira book" by Nestor capoeira
    "Capoeira: roots of the dance fight game" same author.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elipson
    "The little capoeira book" by Nestor capoeira
    "Capoeira: roots of the dance fight game" same author.
    does his family have some connection to the style or is his last name a marketing thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw
    How exactly are you defining full contact then?
    In my understanding, if you can hit as hard as you like, and win the match for knocking your opponent unconcious, it's full contact (ie, boxing). If you get penalized for hitting too hard, and get disqualified for knocking your opponent unconcious, it's semi-contact (ie, karate).
    (by the way, I dig the videos).
    I agree with you. To be honest, I cannot really tell if hitting too hard disqualifies a player under those rules, or if you can KO them and win; I just assumed it was allowed because the guy who showed me those videos said so.

    The videos themselves do not clarify the issue.
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    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
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     Style: Capoeira, MMA

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    Bump for Nestors books *thumbs up*. Mestre Accordion (Bira Almeida) has a few, but both of them like to inject a lot of personal opinion and hippie philosophy. It can get a bit tiresome to wade through IMO.

    A few more:

    "Capoeira: The Jogo de Angola from Luanda to Cyberspace" by Gerard Taylor
    "Capoeira: The History of Afro-Brazilian Martial Art" by Matthi Assunção

    Both of which are more anthropological in nature. Boring, but VERY in depth analysis of the history. There is also another website with some personal translations done by Raposa at
    www.shadowcatcapoeira.com. She has some great material.

    Doninha

    p.s. - Nestor Capoeira is an "apelido," an example of a nickname originally used by t3h g@ngst@ capoeiristas to help hide their identities from the police. The tradition of nicknaming players is still standard today, hence my name "Doninha," which means, say it with me now, "weasel." Insert your own joke here!
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    Doninha, nicknames are very popular in pretty much all martial arts in Brazil. They are usually non-flattering, but sometimes cool; Popó, Sertão, Minotauro, Minotouro, Ninja, Shogun...
    Last edited by WingChun Lawyer; 6/22/2007 9:43am at .
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
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    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
    A hand under his head.


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     Style: Capoeira, MMA

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    Well how 'bout that... I though it was just a capoeira thing. So what is yours then? Advogado?
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    When I did Muay Thai they called me "Morde Fronha" (Pillow Biter) for about a year, for being a goddamn ***** who got a bloody nose at every sparring match. We also had "Bilola" (Fag), "Pudim" (Pudding), "Loucura" (Madness), "Gordo" (Fatso), and "Magoo" (as in Mr. Maggo - the guy had about 20 degrees of nearsightdness).

    By the second year I was kicking enough ass to be promoted to "Chicão", which roughly translates as "Big Francisco" (Francisco being my actual name).

    Sadly my BJJ group does not use nicknames. They are really a very good way of letting newbies know where they stand.
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
    Where the maps are spread,
    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
    A hand under his head.


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    Posted On:
    6/22/2007 10:27am

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    Oh, by the way.

    Jean Silva. Some very nice capoeira flying kicks and cartwheels in MMA competitions. I still think it´s risky to do that, of course, but those moves are still cool as hell.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZljCjwBteM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK_M-OxhjNA
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
    Where the maps are spread,
    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
    A hand under his head.


    - W.B. Yeats
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