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  1. Gumby is offline

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    6/16/2007 6:20pm


     Style: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Ahh, the good ol' kimura- I would say that it took me almost 2 years of constant repitition and practicing in order to figure out the details. The kimura is not a bullying technique in that it shouldnt feel like you're relying solely on strength to do it. Now, forgive me for being less inclinded to explain my kimura techniques in detail for the following reasons:

    1: It took me 2 years to figure out my technique, and it works exceptionally well for me
    2: You're a Gracie Barra student (Im Humaita ;p)
    3: Its difficult to explain it without a visual aid

    Anyways, I'll throw some tips out there- when going for a kimura, you almost always have to open your guard up for multiple reasons. One is to create space for you to sit up. Another is that you have to fight with your hips to position yourself to get the best leverage.

    Getting the setup is usually one of the easier things to do with a kimura- most people have difficulty finishing it I've noticed. So, try this- after locking up the kimura, open your legs and start fighting to switch your hips to the other side.

    *EDIT*

    Oh yeah- if you're having difficulty finishing and you're ending up in the position that flammingo has pictured, pinch your right elbow to your body so that its pressing down on your opponents arm while you lift with the other arm.
    Last edited by Gumby; 6/16/2007 6:23pm at .
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    6/16/2007 10:59pm


     Style: BJJ/MMA/JUDO

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    I seriously love the Kimura.. It's just one of those core techniques.. However.. I am privy to a standing technique that I love as well that I picked up in my crapkido days(yes.. I did crapkido at one point too)..

    This technique is for setting up your standing confrontational agressor(probably not an MA guy) for the ultimate unforseen let-down.. The escort technique.. You know.. the one where some assmunch says, "Hey ************!!..".. and lunges for you like he's gonna do something.. LOL.. it always ends up this way..>>

    >> assailant comes forward with arms out.. whether extended or ready to punch.. it does not matter.. [think standing kimura, only reversed.. if you can?!..].. basically.. you wrap your arm around your assailant's bicep(over the top) while stepping forward and then levering his wrist downward with your opposite arm(forearm).. this causes a fulcrum effect, and bends the elbow and forearm backward.. If you push him back(linear), it's an escort... If you push him down, then it's a takedown..

    Yeah.. I know.. but what if he has a reflex punch?.. just take him all the way down etc.. done deal for most any grappler etc..

    Yeah.. I know that it would be easier for a Judoboy to throw this kinda butt muppet, but my technique looks so much more cool, and actually works.. and you don't break bottles/chandeliers.. etc..

    This is one of the most effective techniques that I learned in Crapkido.. and it actually worked several times for me in my career as a security specialist/punching bag.. so don't knock it till you tried it.. etc.. etc.. etc..

    W3rd to Your MOM..
    Last edited by roflmaochoke; 6/16/2007 11:13pm at .
  3. jnp is offline
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    Posted On:
    6/16/2007 11:25pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by roflmaochoke
    [think standing kimura, only reversed.. if you can?!..]
    That's called an americana. . .shithead.

    Don't post in the grappling subforums if you don't know what you're talking about.

    It's too bad whitebelt filters don't exist.
    Shut the hell up and train.
  4. roflmaochoke is offline

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    6/17/2007 12:18am


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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp
    That's called an americana. . .shithead.

    Don't post in the grappling subforums if you don't know what you're talking about.

    It's too bad whitebelt filters don't exist.
    Man.. Please don't be an absolut shitface.. You obviously have never taken Crapkido, and are speaking on behalf of your biased ass opinionated self-oriented persona.. I respect your BJJ experience.. But.. If you would take MATH 101 and actually put 2+2 together(walk through it step by step).. it's not an Americana.. It's actually called "ude garami".. and its not either if its done as an escort technique(standing).. fanboi..

    ROFL.. hey.. scroll half way down the page and you will see what I am talking about.. only, it's not.. What I'm talking about is from standing position.. link below.. and the arm is more linear than V'd.. Purple Belt??... I thought Purple Belts were supposed to have opened minds.. Sheesh..

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DG

    That, of course, is not to say that once executed, it wouldn't be an americana.. But.. I was trying to keep it simplistic and you waded in trying to complicate things.. typical Austinite.. Look at the brain on this guy.. Trollshido maybe?? :thumbsup:

    I was trying to help out.. just in case our man here gets into a RBSD situation.. I mean, after all.. It is RBSD sux month.. LOL..
    Last edited by roflmaochoke; 6/17/2007 1:11am at .
  5. Blue Negation is offline

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    Posted On:
    6/17/2007 1:37am


     Style: Judo, Sub wrestling

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    lateral ude garami = americana
    reverse = kimura

    i doubt you actually do either judo or bjj
  6. Blue Negation is offline

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    6/17/2007 1:41am


     Style: Judo, Sub wrestling

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    hay u know what? that same technique (standing americana) is really popular among the ninjers. you wouldn't be one of those retarded ninjers that likes to pretend that the bujinkan has everything from bjj, judo, and muay thai, would you?
  7. Das Moose is offline
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    6/17/2007 6:58am


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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp
    It's too bad whitebelt filters don't exist.
    :icon_cry:

    I'm a white belt... and I know what an americana is.... I hit the kimura far more often tho.
  8. jnp is offline
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    6/17/2007 8:27am

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    Quote Originally Posted by roflmaochoke
    It's actually called "ude garami".. and its not either if its done as an escort technique(standing)
    If you knew the proper name why didn't you use it?


    Quote Originally Posted by roflmaochoke
    I thought Purple Belts were supposed to have opened minds.. Sheesh..
    What the hell gave you that idea? We're all misguided fanboi (that was a nice touch by the way. I hate that sk8er boy vernacular.) style bashers.


    Quote Originally Posted by roflmaochoke
    I was trying to keep it simplistic and you waded in trying to complicate things.. typical Austinite..
    Are you located somewhere nearby? Many Austinites are slack-jawed stoners. They have a hard enough time remembering to tie their shoelaces, so no, complicating things is generally not part of the equation around here.


    Quote Originally Posted by Das Moose
    I'm a white belt... and I know what an americana is....
    Yeah, but I like you.
  9. Lu Tze is offline

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    For what it's worth, I often can't remember which way round a kimura/americana is. It's all ude garami to me.

    Of course I'm not posting in grappling forums telling purple belts how to do an armlock...
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    6/17/2007 9:30am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze
    Of course I'm not posting in grappling forums telling purple belts how to do an armlock...
    I'll tell you a secret. Purple belts are overrated. In my mind, blue belts are advanced beginners and purple belts are intermediate practitioners. Brown belts are the first advanced rank.
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