Fang Shen Do: Tales From the Inner Circle

**Resonance10** · Posted On: 3/16/2013 10:37am

Originally Posted by FSDDEFENDER

I think I have to say sorry to many of you. I think maybe you are right too...

I feel pretty dumb as for defending something without really knowing the whole story.

What has changed for you?

**Chili Pepper** · Posted On: 3/16/2013 4:19pm

Originally Posted by FSDDEFENDER

I think I have to say sorry to many of you. I think maybe you are right too...

I feel pretty dumb as for defending something without really knowing the whole story.

That's not an easy thing to admit. Kudos.

**scorpion_wins** · Posted On: 3/18/2013 8:20pm

Originally Posted by FSDDEFENDER

I think I have to say sorry to many of you. I think maybe you are right too...

I feel pretty dumb as for defending something without really knowing the whole story.

No worries. These guys play with your head and make you think FSD is the best thing around but once you start checking out how things are done in other styles you realize that youve been scammed. Good to see that you saw the light.

Id also like to know what changed your mind.

**cheetah2000** · Posted On: 3/19/2013 9:45am

Originally Posted by scorpion_wins

No worries. These guys play with your head and make you think FSD is the best thing around but once you start checking out how things are done in other styles you realize that youve been scammed. Good to see that you saw the light.

Id also like to know what changed your mind.

Maybe it was this? http://www.patenaudegin.com/

And here are other sites that show that gin is a fraud and/or scam:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/director...n-Network.aspx

http://gotojenniferfisher.com/jensblog/2010/07/11/gin/

There is so many more links, it's incredible.

So the patenaude's have been accused of being scammers in the past, money grabbing , etc...

So why would they line themselves up with theses guys?

Does anyone have any more info on GIN? Is it mandatory for a FSD student to join to this?

And the BS with the FSD continues... wow wow wow

**scorpion_wins** · Posted On: 3/19/2013 8:07pm

Originally Posted by cheetah2000

Does anyone have any more info on GIN? Is it mandatory for a FSD student to join to this?

It is not. I was offered to join and I declined. The class after I was completely ignored by the instructors and they wouldnt bother to answer my questions. Needless to say that it was my last class with them.

edit: I just checked the patenaudegin.com link. Jesus fucking christ on a push bike eating a salad. What the actual fucking ****? A picture of the sijo comparing himself to Bruce fucking Lee? Are you fucking kidding me?

**old1o1** · Posted On: 3/19/2013 9:14pm

Thanks for the gin address!

I see the pats have upped the cheap sideshow tricks and are now walking on glass!

I can't wait until Easter. I hear they're holding a special seminar where they pull rabbits out of their asses.

The funny thing about this gin thing. It's a scam, run by crooks and scam artists who recruit money gluttons to their esteemed club because their is nobody easier to scam than a greedy scammer. Gin truly represents all that is fsd & company. Well, maybe the pats have taught gin a thing or two.

Old1o1
fsd- 22 schools and dropping!

**justsome** · Posted On: 5/15/2013 7:49pm

Two Fangers fought on the Challenge MMA card outside of Montreal this weekend. Cedric Mongeon lost by split decision. Mathieu Charette won by RNC. Not a bad card overall.

**justsome** · Posted On: 5/16/2013 6:58pm

oh and anyone know where I can find the old Patenaude clips? The hilarious ones? I am trying to explain the history to a guy and they appear to be deleted off yt,,,,,,'

http://www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=-WWuYgfdKec

**andrewa** · Posted On: 5/16/2013 9:54pm

From what I can see, the FSD crowd have had the video removed from Youtube due to a 'copyright claim'.

**used2b** · Posted On: 5/19/2013 7:11pm

On this page you can see jp's videos listed just before some from James DeMile.
http://www.wcarchive.com/html/wing-chun-videos.htm
Check the lineage for James DeMile vs. jp. Question Marks???
I guess that's about as polite as you can express it.