Fang Shen Do: Tales From the Inner Circle

**Lurchalot** · Posted On: 7/23/2010 11:33am

For some time now there has been some sharing around of sifu's & instructors, most notably at the central Catherine st school. Quite often sibok Martin could not make it & someone else like sifu Joel (Cornwall school) would fill in. I remember being disappointed when they just unilaterally quit holding classes on Thursdays when the then-sifu Steph D'amour would be teaching - the one who just left FSD.

Apparently the Thursday class has been reinstated, held by sifu Joel quite often. Sometimes sifu Scott would hold them too - that would be a treat (really - he's good!) but you never know who it could be.

So in short, yes there are more schools than sifu's to go around - has been for some time which affects the quality & continuity of tuition. Some would argue that can be good - for diversity - or not good, i.e. contradictory and/or confusing.

Another 2c for your consideration.

btw - "....... when you can go to OAMA or Ronin, or anywhere else and get the top guy regularly" ==> who are these guys? Do they train WCD or JKD in Ottawa?

**cheetah2000** · Posted On: 7/23/2010 2:26pm

Ah, I get in know... so if there is this whole sharing concept at the HQ. But I check out what you said in your last post. Please don't get the wrong impression, I am not trying to call anybody a liar, especially if you haven't been there for awhile. But there is no more Thursday class, as per the FSD HQ website. Anyways it's not really the point i wanted to make.

What do you mean by sharing around of sifus? Cause in the previous post you mentionned that:

"So other sifus are "encouraged" to do similar in support." What does that mean "encouraged"?

It seems that other owners don't really have a say in this stuff?

I am confused, I taught everything was rosy? Maybe you being a "insider" you can give your opinion. Please understand that I won't hold you to it. It's an opinion, and I think that sites like this is where people can voice them without any threats, attacks, etc... and chat about them.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 7/23/2010 2:47pm

Sorry, I've stayed out of this thread. Yet, due to recent events it is time to bring the hammer down.

Those of you with multiple accounts need to tell me which one you want to keep. Otherwise, I will be banning all accounts. ALL including the original account.

**Lurchalot** · Posted On: 7/23/2010 3:00pm

Originally Posted by cheetah2000

Ah, I get in know... so if there is this whole sharing concept at the HQ. But I check out what you said in your last post. Please don't get the wrong impression, I am not trying to call anybody a liar, especially if you haven't been there for awhile. But there is no more Thursday class, as per the FSD HQ website. Anyways it's not really the point i wanted to make.

What do you mean by sharing around of sifus? Cause in the previous post you mentionned that:

"So other sifus are "encouraged" to do similar in support." What does that mean "encouraged"?

It seems that other owners don't really have a say in this stuff?

I am confused, I taught everything was rosy? Maybe you being a "insider" you can give your opinion. Please understand that I won't hold you to it. It's an opinion, and I think that sites like this is where people can voice them without any threats, attacks, etc... and chat about them.

That's ok - cool with that. When I last made a visit recently I was told the Thursday classes were back, even tho not listed. Maybe that has changed since - I am no longer an "insider" so cannot say. This may also have changed since sifu Brian had to withdraw from FSD due to illness & has effectively retired. So what was true then may not be true now.

As you know, all the FSD sifu's are considered part of the extended 'family' & 'inner circle' as well as biz partners. So there is an expectation for all to share the burden of other schools as well as their "own". I don't think anyone is 'threatened' or intimidated (altho intimidation is part of their training répertoire) but no doubt there is some pressure applied either implicitly or directly. That is what I meant by "encouraged".

**old1o1** · Posted On: 7/23/2010 5:43pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

Sorry, I've stayed out of this thread. Yet, due to recent events it is time to bring the hammer down.

Those of you with multiple accounts need to tell me which one you want to keep. Otherwise, I will be banning all accounts. ALL including the original account.

If the offenders do not comply, do we get to find out who was who?

Do their posts magically disappear or do they remain posted?

Actually, can we find out who is who anyways. After all, they did post here using more than one ID.

Am I gonna get a lecture on reading the fine print contained within?

Just curious?

Old1o1
Well Behaved... mostly :adios:

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 7/23/2010 6:02pm

You can click this link when it starts:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/banlist.php
You'll then learn who.

**old1o1** · Posted On: 7/23/2010 6:32pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

You can click this link when it starts:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/banlist.php
You'll then learn who.

Thank You!

**old1o1** · Posted On: 7/24/2010 10:10am

Originally Posted by andrewa

I was looking at the pictures from the Gokor seminar (on the FSD blog) and I noticed that in all the photos I don't see any of the instructors or school owners (other than the family members). I just find it curious that would be the case when they seem to be incorporating mma into their curriculum.

Yes! Where are the fsd "Waldos?

Did anyone here attend this Gokor semenar?

As andrewa mentioned, there appear to be no other school owners or fsd instructors present in the blog pics.

Old1o1
Master of Karatecize

**cheetah2000** · Posted On: 7/26/2010 12:50pm

Posted today, the Sibok guy, announced a new "Sifu/MADE" guy.
Does anybody know who this guy is? Marc Beauchamp?
I've never heard about him, so just wondering...

But it got me thinking, there was a previous post from someone here, I don't remember who wrote it originally, but posting about the lack of Sifus in the organization.

We must be really making an effect on JP, his ears must have been burning after that post, cause then, VOILA! A NEW SIFU! A MADE man.

Now, I don't know this guy, he might have paid his dues, but do they get tested for this stuff. Or is it when you have given everything to the FSD CLAN that you get MADE.

Has anyone drove by the FSD HQ, are they still there?

One last question, how does the other owners (non-sifus) feel about this? Are they being MADE also? Or has this Beauchamp guy :crybaby2:created some internal jealousy? He getting UPPED but not others. Hmmmm... just wondering?:cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing:

**cheetah2000** · Posted On: 7/26/2010 3:02pm

The new FSD HQ is .... drum roll... 270 Catherine, as per their website.

The Sibok dude mentionned before papa gave him s*** for letting the cat out of the bag early about the school:

"third is a brand new 3000 + square foot new location for Ottawa area students. The headquarter school will have a new home by July 12th. The place will be state of the art and will be designed to reproduce the look and feel of our Private Training Pagoda in Casselman.
Look for details concerning the Grand-Opening shortly."

State of the art? Over the weekend, I made my friends drive by the new location, sorry I can't afford wheels right now. LOL :(

State of the art? Really? It's an old building.

I have never been at the Pagoda, so can someone enlighten me on this. Pls.

It just seems that this just another of the look a whole new, repackaged location, latest DVD, etc... BS stuff again.

I don't know, i give up. Thank you for everyone chatting with me. I guess I retire, lol. I have better things to do than the Patenaudes. :homework: