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  1. electron jockey is offline

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    Bruises: I am a delicate snowflake, apparently.

    I've just gotten back into training and martial arts after a long hiatus. I've lost a lot of weight in the last 18 months, and I'm noticing something new. After any serious grappling I am a mass of bruises. They aren't painful, just unsightly. I actually have a bruise shaped like 4 fingers and a thumb on my right bicep right now. I get a few forearm bruises from blocking strikes and what have you, but the marks from grappling extend right up my upper arms and across my chest.

    Is easier bruising a side effect of just not having so much fat on me, or am I missing something from my diet?
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    We knew you could do it! electron jockey posted, YAY! And if a bot is this rude, just imagine harsh this is gonna be. Hope you're wearing a thick gi.
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    That's actually a good question. Moving this to the PT forum.
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    Posted On:
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    A quick search on google showed some possible causes:

    - deficiency in Vitamin B complex (specially B-12) and folate (folic acid), which may lead to a low platelet count and easy bruising and bleeding
    - anemia
    - deficiency in Vitamin C (very rare)
    - excess in Vitamin E
    - in women, a disorder that casues easy bruising is an inherited condition called von Willebrand's disease.
    - Excess intake of aspirin or other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications (Motrin, Advil, Anaprox) may also lead to easy bruising.

    electron jockey, if you have lost a lot of weight, maybe you are malnourished and lacking in Vitamin B and folate (and iron if you are a woman.) You may certainly want to re-check your diet and perhaps try some B-complex and folate supplements to see if your rate of bruising decreases.

    Also, according to http://www.medicinenet.com/bruises/article.htm

    Why do bruises occur more frequently in some people than in others?

    The injury required to produce a bruise varies with age. While it may take quite a bit of force to cause a bruise in a young child, even minor bumps and scrapes may cause extensive bruising or ecchymosis in an elderly person. Blood vessels become more fragile as we age and bruising may even occur without prior injury in the elderly.

    The amount of bruising may also be affected by medications which interfere with blood clotting (and thus cause more bleeding into the skin or tissues). These drugs include many prescription arthritis medications called non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (e.g., ibuprofen/Advil, Nuprin and naproxen/Aleve) as well as over-the-counter medications, such as aspirin. Warfarin (Coumadin) is often prescribed by doctors specifically to prevent clotting in patients who have had blood clots in their legs or heart. Warfarin can cause particularly severe bruising, especially if the level of the medication becomes too high. Cortisone medications, such as prednisone, promote bruising by increasing the fragility of the tiny blood vessels in the skin.
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    As well as the following (not necesarily related to the OP's question, but which is worth mentioning to anyone engaged in combat sports)

    What if the bruise doesn't get better or the area stays swollen?

    On occasion, instead of going away, the area of a bruise will become firm and may actually start increasing in size. It may also continue to be painful. There are two major causes for this. First, if a large collection of blood is formed under the skin or in the muscle, instead of trying to clean up the area, the body may wall the blood off causing what is called a hematoma. A hematoma is nothing more than a small pool of blood that is walled off. This may need to be drained by your health care practitioner.

    A second and much less common problem occurs when the body deposits calcium, the material that makes up the majority of bone, in the area of injury. The area becomes tender and firm. This process is called heterotopic ossification or myositis ossificans.

    This condition is diagnosed by x-ray and requires a trip to your health care practitioner.

    Hope it helps :)
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    Posted On:
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    I feel you. Whenever I come home from jujitsu my arms are bruised. At first they were big bruises, now it's usually just spots all up and down the underside of my upper arm. They don't hurt, and they disappear within 4-5 days.
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    don't just check your diet.

    it could be any number of things causing you to bruise easily...

    from diet to disease.

    you should go to your doctor, tell him your problem, and get some bloodwork done.
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    Hmmm ... so is my severe anemia the reason I don't bruise easily then?
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    I may be wrong, but the bruises you've described sound pretty common. My arms used to be covered with them, especially my inner biceps. Lots of the guys I've trained with have complained of the same thing. It doesn't do it nearly as bad anymore though. I don't know if it's some kind of toughening-up thing or what. I never worried about it, and I'm fine...I think.


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    Im a girl so when I started training, my tiny bruised arms was really annoying me, but after a while they started to heal faster. Now they usually heal after 3-4 days.

    I take a b-vitamin supplement+ tran (oil-omega3 d vitamin+++), and I guess it helps... its hard to say... well, at least I dont bruise as easily as I did.:)
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    in agreement with springheeledjack -
    the simplest cause would simply be tender skin on the surfaces of your body that have rarely come into rough contact with anything else during the course of your break/life. girls tend to bruise more easily than guys anywhere on their body simply because they are involved in less rough and tumble. same goes for your hands/feet vs anywhere else. i cant name the last time i saw a bruise anywhere on my hands, forearms, feet or shins(despite doing a lot of striking, blocking and leg checking), but i have a bruise right now on my inner thigh from where someone was digging an elbow in to try and break my closed guard.

    one of my friends recently started rolling at my bjj club and his arms and chest were covered in bruises much like you describe. after 2months training he might get a few small bruises that disappear quickly.

    of course if you continue to bruise easily over an extended period you should definitely see a professional about it.
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