Also, doesn't the mac-10 totally suck for accuracy? I've heard that it was nicknamed the phonebooth gun, because you'd have to be in a phonebooth with someone to actually hit them with it.
And Mac-10's are used by stupid negroid gangsters who shoot it sideways.
I wonder how many gangstaz have scars on their faces from hot brass, LOL
Not sure if I'm misunderstanding your post mate?
PDw concept is silly.
Just issue and train everybody to use pistols. There is no need for a scaled down carbine, added logistical pain, etc. It sucks that the right people don't get them, but that's not a engineering problem. That's a personnel problem. I've seen it, I know about it.
I think everyone should have pistols ontop of a scaled down carbine. Shouldntgo outside the wire with just a pistol. It kinda sounded like that's what you were suggesting? Or did you mean for people who woul absolutely NOT leave the wire?
are hard to aim and schoot accurately with, requiring decent amount of range time
have magazine problems from abuse
very short range
Definatly an 'oh ****' weapon
Troops outside the wire need adequate firepower to defend themselves if they get hit and I don't think a pistol fits that bill all. Like I was saying, with the amount of additional training, lack of money and resourcs etc.. the PWD might look good on paper but doesn't let itself to being pratical.
Give the guys not leaving the wire good old M16s, combat troops get the higherspeed M16s/M4s.
Would be great to switch the 9mm round to a 40S&W or .45
if i could +rep in this forum, i would.
Originally Posted by GuiltySpark
i also second the switch in caliber, but a .40 sounds more reasonable, in terms of usability and price.
What I'm saying is everyone should have a pistol, period.
Then, I think everybody should have the bigger gun they can handle due to their environment.
Not all pistols have magazine problems. Just the common issue military ones because it was way down on the priority list. The MEU(soc) pistol doesn't have issues with it, for example(wilson mags). Pistols are not hard to aim and fire accurately, for the ranges they accommodate. They are easier to wield indoors, are cheaper to purchase than rifles and exotic special carbines, and are better than nothing. They are backup weapons for most, no question about that, brother.
The mac-10 isn't wildly inaccurate, but it's about as accurate as you would expect from the barrel length. As I said before, a widespread imperfect weapon is better than a perfect weapon in nobody's hand. They are CHEAP, cheap, cheap, cheap. Which means they can be ubiquitous. I have no attachment to that weapon, but it was the first thing that came to mind considering the criteria I had in my head. The first being ease of acquisition. There are a million perfect weapons on the drawing board or that are too expensive to be "practical". Gotta save money for those 1 billion dollar a pop B2s, ya know.
The US should switch back to 45 if anything, not .40.
We already have a lot of .45 weapons in the inventory including:
USPs for various SOCOM units,
The MEU(Soc) pistol,
Agencies using .45 UMPs.
In other words, we should have never switched from the 1911
But then all those army brats would hurt their wittle hands with the recoil.
1911 has a 7 round magazine and is almost 100 years old.
Originally Posted by Sh0t
In a world where you can buy a Glock in every caliber and have at least twice the number of shots in a dual stack magazine, why bother with a 1911, nostalgia?
Because it looks cool, and that's all that really matters.
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