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  1. mad_mally is offline

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    Need some BJJ advice

    I just converted to BJJ (I took my first class on thursday), however I'm still searching looking at BJJ schools. One school is run by Gene Simco, he's suppose to be really good, but it's a bit expensive. The other class is run by Brian Mclaughlin and he charges $75 a month for two classes a week. I took a class at Gene's school, and I liked it, but I want to try out Brian's school because it's cheaper.

    My question is what should I be looking for in these schools? Does anyone know anything about these instructors? Which one is better?

    Thanks
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    Shut the hell up and train.
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    Brian is a legit badass (and left Simco).
    I've never heard a good word about Simco from anyone bluebelt or better.
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    Gene Simco isnt held in high regard anywhere in the BJJ world. The story goes something like this if I can remember it properly- he constantly changed schools finding instructors that would promote him to the next belt until he could get his black belt. Hes simply interested in making money rather than actually learning BJJ.

    Brian Mclaughlin is a regular jiu jitsu competitor with a solid competition record who has also recently thrown his lot into professional MMA. If his classes were twice that of Simco's for half as much training time I'd still suggest you go to Brian's classes. Also, the fact that he competes (nevermind the fact that he competes well) makes him a much better choice than Simco, who doesnt.

    I believe hes set up for another match with Ryan Hall (who is also a very good competitor in his own right) in Delware sometime in June, should you want to make the trip to watch him compete- something you wont see Simco do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_mally
    My question is what should I be looking for in these schools? Does anyone know anything about these instructors? Which one is better?
    As has been mentioned, Gene Simco is probably not a good option - he has a very bad reputation on the net (depending on how much you trust information you find on the web). To c&p the links I added to the wiki a while back, the below threads give a general impression. The 'Simco Black Belt??????' thread in particular should tell you everything you could want to know, but I'd warn you its VERY long:

    JiuJitsuGear

    Simco's JiuJitsuGear Profile
    2003: Master Text 2nd Edition Review
    2003: Gene Simco vs. a White Belt?
    2005: Simco Black Belt????????

    Bullshido

    Simco's Bullshido Profile
    2004: Response from Jiu-jitsu.net: APS Billing Issue
    2005: Simco is at it again
    2006: Gene Simco "Essentials of Jiu-Jitsu" 4 DVD Set
    2006: BJJ, The Master Text, $110?


    Brian McLaughlin, on the other hand, comes across very well, at least on the internet - he posts as BJJ Fighter over on NHBGear.
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    there is no choice to be made here. anyone falling for Simco in 2007 deserves to get taken.
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    Hi, this is Brian McLaughlin the head instructor at Hudson Valley Jiu-Jitsu.

    Please feel free to stop by anytime and try a free week of classes to see if we are right for you.

    We offer both Gi and no-Gi classes, as well as boxing, muay thai, wrestling, and Mixed Martial Arts (up to 11 classes a week). Everyone at the school is laid back and very helpful, we train hard but keep things very friendly.

    As far as my background, I've been training BJJ since November of 1999. I am currently a purple belt under Rob Kahn (Royce Gracie black belt)

    I compete regularly in grappling and MMA. If you would like to see some of my footage, my last MMA fight against Carmine Zocchi (BJJ Black belt under Marcello Mello) will be on In Demand pay per view June 29th at 10pm.

    Here are some videos of me competing if you are interested

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSLysU74bLY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNPrDNrUrDc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrsUzl10FTk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf6vWzWLAJc

    Here is a video of one of my MMA Fighters

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubKj0nwmhfw






    Most recently I had a no-gi superfight against ADCC veteran Ryan Hall and won by armbar.






    Gumby thanks for the kinds words, btw Waffle from AKA says hello.

    If you have any other questions feel free to call me at 845-255-3318 you can also check out oour website at www.bjjfighter.com

    Hope to see you on the mat
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    Quote Originally Posted by HVJJ

    Gumby thanks for the kinds words, btw Waffle from AKA says hello.

    If you have any other questions feel free to call me at 845-255-3318 you can also check out oour website at www.bjjfighter.com

    Hope to see you on the mat

    No problem, but I feel that I need to remind you that Im not Gumby from OTM and as such I do not know who Waffle is- I post as Rubber-Man on the jiu jitsu gear forums.
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    6/30/2007 8:59pm

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    All I can say from EXPERIENCE:

    HVJJ = Very experienced and knowledgeable instructors, senior students who share their knowledge and a very positive learning environment.

    Yes, I'm a NOOB to the forum...but the facts are the facts.
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    Posted On:
    6/30/2007 11:22pm


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    Hey guys thanks for the imput. I've already joined Brian Mclaughlin's school, and so far I'm loving it.

    BTW, Brian that's a pretty sweet armbar. See you in class.

    John
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