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  1. willaume is offline

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     Style: aikido, medieval fencing

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    Sorry I fizzlebopping have to ask, I take aikido and let's talk about wrist locks

    Donít take it the wrong way but surely when someone applies a wrist lock, he is holding the wrist and the elbow/forearm of the opponent, no?
    I mean there is nothing he can let go off, we are holding all the bits we need.

    Do you think of something where the lock relies on the opponents to hold on.?
    Like aihenmi katate dori nikkio (ie nikkio from wrist grip same hand to same hand grab), where:
    You kick him in the bolloks
    Put your free hand on the hand he grabs you and use the hand of the grabbed wrist to complete nikkio?
    If that something like that yes you are right he can let go and the technique will be stopped.
    Is that wat you mean

    phil
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    What? Do we think wrist locks that are reliant on the opponent to hold on are good? Is that what you're asking?
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    1- no cusswords in the post title
    2- Yes that is what we mean. WE don't grab wrists.
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    I think what he is asking is:

    "What do you people mean when you say you can escape my powerful wrist locks? Surely I control your whole body through this one join (ala Ryaboko wtf his name is)."

    For the avg person wrist lock might give you enough time through pain compliance to do something else. But in and of them selves they are rather inneffective against another fighter.
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    Original title: Sorry I fucking have to ask, what is that let go stuff when you talk about wrist lock


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    In my BST2 course they tought a cool transition from wrist lock to bent arm bar/straight arm bar takedown.
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    What?!?

    The few times I was taught wristlocks, it was to go to something else, or to get pain compliance, and make someone think twice.

    Otherwise, I have no idea what you're saying...
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    IMO.... A good wrist lock is very effective but only temperately to set up for a better submission
    and it all depends on the situation your in is on the mat or is in the street!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by willaume
    Donít take it the wrong way but surely when someone applies a wrist lock, he is holding the wrist and the elbow/forearm of the opponent, no?
    I mean there is nothing he can let go off, we are holding all the bits we need.

    Do you think of something where the lock relies on the opponents to hold on.?
    Like aihenmi katate dori nikkio (ie nikkio from wrist grip same hand to same hand grab), where:
    You kick him in the bolloks
    Put your free hand on the hand he grabs you and use the hand of the grabbed wrist to complete nikkio?
    If that something like that yes you are right he can let go and the technique will be stopped.
    Is that wat you mean

    phil
    where does the question start in this post?
    you have to be faster than fast and have the grip strength of a vise for most wrist locks to be executed properly against a resisting opponent. unfortunately, most aikido students i've met fill neither of these requirements.
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